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stoned
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can aids virus survive in cow's blood?
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the survival of the AIDS virus in cow's blood, exploring the relationship between HIV, its implications for other species, and the potential consequences of an autoimmune deficiency in cows.
Discussion Character
- Debate/contested
- Conceptual clarification
Main Points Raised
- One participant questions whether the AIDS virus can survive in cow's blood, prompting responses about the nature of AIDS and HIV.
- Another participant asserts that if the virus could survive in cows, they would be carriers, suggesting that they are not.
- A participant clarifies that AIDS is a syndrome linked to HIV, which primarily infects humans, and mentions related viruses in other species, such as SIV in monkeys.
- Concerns are raised about the implications of an autoimmune deficiency in cows, with one participant speculating on the agricultural and health impacts of such a scenario.
- A later reply introduces skepticism regarding the health effects of vegetarian or vegan diets compared to meat-inclusive diets, citing personal sources and seeking validation of this claim.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the implications of an autoimmune deficiency in cows and the health impacts of dietary choices, indicating that multiple competing views remain without consensus.
Contextual Notes
There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of viruses and their host species, as well as the validity of health claims related to diet.
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hypatia
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nope, if it could then cows would be carriers, and there not.
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chroot
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1) There is no such thing as an "AIDS virus." AIDS is a syndrome, like having cancer, or being unconscious. It is etiologically linked with the virus called HIV, which stands for "Human Immunodeficiency Virus."
2) The term "Human" indicates that the virus generally infects only humans. If I'm not mistaken, HIV can also show some activity in other closely-related animals like chimpanzees.
3) Other species have related virii, like SIV (Simian Immunodeficiency Virus), which infects monkeys.
4) As far as I'm aware, there is no Bovine Immunodeficiency Virus which would infect cows.
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2) The term "Human" indicates that the virus generally infects only humans. If I'm not mistaken, HIV can also show some activity in other closely-related animals like chimpanzees.
3) Other species have related virii, like SIV (Simian Immunodeficiency Virus), which infects monkeys.
4) As far as I'm aware, there is no Bovine Immunodeficiency Virus which would infect cows.
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misskitty
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We'd be kinda screwed if there was an autoimmune deficiany that affected cows. Especially if we didn't know about it or how to detect it.
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chroot
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We'd be unscrewed, actually, misskitty. An enormous amount of land would suddenly become available for agriculture, which produces many times more Calories per unit land area than does cattle. All the resources (oil, energy, water, etc.) that are currently wasted on cattle would also suddenly become available for more efficient use. It'd force people to start following a vegetarian or vegan diet, which would improve public health and decrease a large variety of health costs. Sure, it'd ruin a few industries, but those people would find new jobs. I think it'd be one of the best things to ever happen to the modern food infrastructure.
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misskitty
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Hmm, 
interesting point. I can see where you're coming from.
However, I heard this from my chiropractor and my PCP, (it could be wrong, but that's why I'm asking) that people who follow vegetitarian or vegan diets live shorter lives than people who include in meat in their diets. How much merit does this statement actually have? I'm skeptical on how valid this statement really is.
I'm not trying to harp on anyone's lifestyle. Please don't think I am. My apologies to anyone who might be offended.
interesting point. I can see where you're coming from. However, I heard this from my chiropractor and my PCP, (it could be wrong, but that's why I'm asking) that people who follow vegetitarian or vegan diets live shorter lives than people who include in meat in their diets. How much merit does this statement actually have? I'm skeptical on how valid this statement really is.
I'm not trying to harp on anyone's lifestyle. Please don't think I am. My apologies to anyone who might be offended.
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