How Do You Solve These Complex Geometry and Rate Problems?

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The original poster presents two geometry-related problems involving rates of change. The first problem concerns the movement of a man's shadow as he walks away from a lamppost, while the second involves two ships departing from a harbor at different angles and speeds.

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  • Participants discuss the use of similar triangles and trigonometric relationships to establish connections between the man's distance from the lamppost and the length of his shadow. There are also considerations about how to represent the ships' paths on a coordinate grid and the relationships between their speeds.

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Some participants have provided insights into the geometric relationships involved in the first problem, while others are exploring the second problem. There is an ongoing exchange of ideas without a clear consensus on the best approach for the second question.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about specific terminology, such as "kn," and is focused on understanding the processes involved rather than just obtaining answers. There is also a mention of drawing diagrams to aid in understanding the problems.

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There are two questions that I'm stuck on and I was wondering if someone could help me. I'm more worried about the process of finding the right answer than the answer itself. Thanks in advance.

1) A man who is 2 m tall is walking straight away from a lamppost at a rate of 8 km/h. The lamppost is 7 m high. How fast is the end of his shadow moving when he is 7 m from the foot of the lamppost? Ans: 11.2 km/h

I know that you have to use the property of similar triangles but I'm not too sure how to set it up. Any suggestions?


2) Two ships start out from harbour at the same time; one travels northeast and the other southeast. If the first has a speed of 16 kn and the second 12 kn, how fast are they separating after 1 h? Ans: 20 kn

Would it help to know what kn stood for? Because I have no idea. Anyways, I started out with a coordinate grid with the harbour at (0,0) and the first ship at (x,16) and the second ship at (x,-12). Don't really know if this is the right to approach this but I had to start with something. Thanks, and have a good night.
 
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Draw a triangle inscribed in a triangle, sharing the two non vertical sides
The vertical end is the lamppost, the vertical centerline is the man. You want ds/dt (speed of shadow), given dx/dt = 8

Well the main step here is drawing a relationship between how far the man is and where his shadow is. Using trig properties, take a couple stabs at possible relationships between his distance from the post and the distance of the end of his shadow to the post.
 
Okay, I got the first question..thanks whozum. Could anyone help me out on the second question?
 
this is simple geometry. it is a right triangle, and the ships path are the two sides. the hypotenuse is the distance between them.

so, [itex](\frac{dx}{dt})^2+(\frac{dy}{dt})^2=(\frac{ds}{dt})^2[/itex](dx/dt=12kn and dy/dt=16kn).

so, [itex]12^2+16^2=(\frac{ds}{dt})^2~~144+256=(\frac{ds}{dt})^2~~400=(\frac{ds}{dt})^2~~\frac{ds}{dt}=20[/itex]
so, the ships are moving away from each other at 20kn.
 
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