What are some open summer programs for aspiring scientists in New York?

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The discussion centers around finding open summer programs for aspiring scientists in New York, particularly for a junior interested in chemistry. The conversation touches on experiences with internship applications, specifically the NASASHARP internship, and the challenges faced in securing opportunities.

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  • One participant shares their experience of being declined for the NASASHARP internship due to the program's focus on under-represented ethnic groups, expressing a desire for lab or internship opportunities in New York.
  • Another participant suggests a website listing summer programs and encourages reaching out to local universities and professors for potential opportunities.
  • A participant reflects on the broader implications of affirmative action policies, questioning the narratives surrounding ethnicity as a deciding factor in admissions and opportunities.
  • Further discussion includes a participant's research experience with aerogels and inquiries about summer programs at Berkeley Labs, noting uncertainty about residential options.

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Participants express varying perspectives on the impact of affirmative action policies, with some questioning the validity of claims regarding ethnicity affecting opportunities. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the availability of summer programs and the implications of these policies.

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Participants mention specific programs and personal experiences, but there are limitations in the information provided about the availability and criteria of summer programs. The discussion reflects individual experiences and opinions without a consensus on the broader implications of affirmative action.

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I am a junior and I had been applying to the NASASHARP internship. I was declined due to the fact that they want under-represented ethnic groups, and I happen to be white.. Anyway, I live in New York and would really like to work in a lab or as an intern this summer. I would love to make it out to california, but honestly, it isn't a huge deal where I go. I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions for summer programs still open? Also, I am interested strongly in chemistry, if that helps.. Please let me know what you think, I would really appreciate it.
 
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Tough break, mate. Doesn't help that you're sort of late into the game either...
Here's a website that lists a LOT of summer programs, you might want to look through it:http://sciserv.org/stp/ and cross your fingers that some will still take you. If nothing available strikes your fancy, look up the nearest university and see if they have anything you can do there (feel free to email profs too, it can't hurt). And if you have any connections in this way USE IT! The first research job I ever got at a local uni was through a professor whose husband was friends with my dad, and I just happened to exploit that connection.
Best of luck.
 
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alex caps said:
I am a junior and I had been applying to the NASASHARP internship. I was declined due to the fact that they want under-represented ethnic groups, and I happen to be white..

It's funny, I talk to people who make decisions about this sort of thing (admissions, scholarships, etc.) and they tell me that ethnicity is very rarely the deciding factor, yet I've heard countless stories from white men who claim to have lost something due to an affirmative action-like policy. I'm starting to suspect sour grapes every time somebody tells me something like this...
 
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It's funny, I talk to people who make decisions about this sort of thing (admissions, scholarships, etc.) and they tell me that ethnicity is very rarely the deciding factor, yet I've heard countless stories from white men who claim to have lost something due to an affirmative action-like policy. I'm starting to suspect sour grapes every time somebody tells me something like this...

This has been copied from the NASASHARP application:

NASA SHARP is specifically designed to attract and increase underrepresented * students’ participation and success rates in mathematics and science
courses, as well as to encourage career paths that help build a pool of underrepresented science and engineering professionals in the work place. However,
all talented high school students are encouraged to apply.

and

* “Underrepresented” refers to racial and ethnic populations that are underrepresented in the Science, Technology, Engineering, or
Mathematics (STEM) professions relative to the size of the population at large. This term may encompass Blacks or African Americans,
American Indians or Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians or Other Pacific Islanders, and Hispanics or Latinos.

Also, the letter they sent me notifying me of my rejection sounded very similar...

Anyway, I have been doing a lot of aerogel research in last 8 months and have been talking a lot with professors and researchers at MIT, NASA's JPL and GRC, and a few other places.. I know that Bekeley Labs offer a bunch of summer programs, but I don't know if any are residential, because that is the only way I would be able to head out there.. I emailed them, as well as a few others, but if any of you have other ideas please let me know, thanks.
 

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