Thermodynamics Fun: Is Net Work = Change in Q for Brayton Cycle?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between net work and heat change in the Brayton cycle using helium gas. Participants confirm that while the first law of thermodynamics states that the change in internal energy (\Delta U) equals the sum of heat added (q) and work done (w), the Brayton cycle is not an isolated system. Therefore, the net work and net heat are not expected to be equal. Calculating work and heat through the four steps of the cycle is essential for accurate analysis.

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For a brayton cycle on a pressure and temperature diagram, using helium gas, is it reasonable to have the net work for the cycle and the change in Q for the cycle to come out to be equal to each other?
 
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i thought the first law of thermodynamics said "change in work is equal to change in heat"

so yeah it is reasonable. and i just worked some brayton cycle problems for homework, and yeah that's what i had
 
audi476 said:
i thought the first law of thermodynamics said "change in work is equal to change in heat"

so yeah it is reasonable. and i just worked some brayton cycle problems for homework, and yeah that's what i had

First law of Thermodynamics

[tex]\Delta U = q + w[/tex]

Or in differential form

[tex]dU = dq + dw[/tex]

In an ISOLATED system, [tex]\Delta U = 0[/tex]. A Brayton cycle, however, is not isolated. Actually its not even closed. So offhand I would not expect the net work to be the same as the net heat evolved. I would however, calculate the work done and heat evolved through all 4 steps of the cycle for an ideal gas. You have two isobars and two isoentropes (constant entropy).
 
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