Calculate Molar Mass of Protein from Osmotic Pressure

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the molar mass of a protein using osmotic pressure measurements. Participants explore the application of the van't Hoff equation in this context, addressing the necessary parameters and assumptions involved in the calculation.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a scenario involving a protein dissolved in water and its measured osmotic pressure, seeking assistance in calculating the molar mass.
  • Another participant questions the initial request for help, prompting clarification on the user's attempts to solve the problem.
  • A participant mentions the use of the equation p = i M R T and expresses uncertainty about the van't Hoff factor (i).
  • Further contributions explain the van't Hoff factor, with examples of its values for different substances, suggesting that for proteins, it is likely 1 since they do not ionize in water.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of the van't Hoff factor, noting that it can be less than expected for compounds that do not completely dissociate.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact value of the van't Hoff factor for proteins, although there is a general inclination towards it being 1. The discussion remains open regarding the implications of this factor on the calculation.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not clarify the assumptions regarding the behavior of the protein in solution or the specific conditions under which the osmotic pressure was measured. There is also no resolution on the exact methodology for calculating the molar mass based on the provided data.

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To determine the molar mass of a certain protein, 1.00E-3 grams of the protein was dissolved in enough water to make a 1.00 mL solution. The osmotic pressure of this solution was found to be 1.12 torr at 25.0C. Calculate the molar mass of the protein.
 
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Yes ? And what do you want us to do ?
 
physicsss said:
To determine the molar mass of a certain protein, 1.00E-3 grams of the protein was dissolved in enough water to make a 1.00 mL solution. The osmotic pressure of this solution was found to be 1.12 torr at 25.0C. Calculate the molar mass of the protein.
I assume you want help in working out the molar mass. Where are your attempts first?

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I tried using this equation: p = i M R T, but I have no idea what i is.
 
physicsss said:
I tried using this equation: p = i M R T, but I have no idea what i is.

i = moles of stand-alone stuff per mole of stuff (for lack of better words). for example, i for sulphuric acid is 3. i for potassium chloride is 2. i for acetic acid is 1 (weak acids do not dissociate).
 
Do you know what it is for protein?
 
Probably 1
 
i = van't Hoff factor. Roughly speaking, it measures the degree to which the ions dissassociate in solution. For example, the van't Hoff factor of NaCl is 2 since NaCl completely dissassociatesin water. Since most proteins don't ionize in water, n is probably 1.

i does not necessarily have to be an integer. For compounds that don't completely dissassociate, the van't Hoff factor is less than wht you would expect. The van't Hoff factor for HF for instance, is only a little bit more than 1 and not 2 since HF is a weak acid.
 

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