Charged particle moving relativistically through E field

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the behavior of a charged particle moving relativistically through an electric field, specifically addressing the implications of special relativity (SR) on the particle's velocity and momentum as it enters a uniform electric field. The scope includes theoretical aspects of electromagnetism and relativistic dynamics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the derivation of the Lorentz force law and the implications of a charged particle's trajectory in an electric field without prior knowledge of special relativity.
  • Another participant questions whether the electric field is stationary in the reference frame of the moving particle, suggesting that if it is, there should be no change in the x momentum of the particle.
  • A different participant clarifies that while the electric field does not vary with time for an observer, in the particle's reference frame, a magnetic force arises due to Lorentz contraction of the field lines.
  • One participant proposes that since the quantity \(c^2p^2 - E^2\) remains invariant under Lorentz transformations, the increase in energy due to the electric field must result in a decrease in momentum, leading to a decrease in the x-velocity as the particle gains y-velocity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the electric field's characteristics on the particle's momentum and velocity. There is no consensus on whether the x momentum should change or remain constant, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the definitions of stationary and moving fields, as well as the assumptions regarding the invariance of certain quantities under Lorentz transformations. The discussion does not resolve these complexities.

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Right now I'm taking an introductory E&M class that uses Purcell's book "Electricity and Magnetism." The chapter we're covering focuses on deriving the Lorentz force law for moving charges using SR arguments. This is confusing because we've never covered SR before, so I have a lot of difficulty going through the appropriate transformations and understanding what's going on. One problem that is troubling me a lot goes like this:

Consider the trajectory of a charged particle moving with a speed 0.8c in the x direction when it enters a large region in which there is a uniform electric field in the y direction. Show that the x velocity of the particle must actually decrease. What about the x component of momentum?

This is totally counterintuitive to me, and if someone could explain it for me I would really appreciate it.
 
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In the coordinate system where the particle is moving at .8c, is the electric field stationary? If so, there should be no magnetic field, and thus no reason for the momentum of the particle in the x direction to change.


If the electric field was moving, it'd be a different story.
 
I'm not sure what you mean by the field being stationary. If you're asking if the electric field varies with time, then the answer is no. The observer seeing the electron moving past at 0.8c measures no magnetic field. In the reference frame of the particle, however, there is a magnetic force caused by the lorentz contraction of the field lines. In fact, the Lorentz force equation is the definition for the magnetic field. From my book: "It will turn out that a field B with [the properties of the Lorentz force equation] must exist if the forces between electric charges obey the postulates of special relativity."
 
I think I just figured it out. The quantity [tex]c^2p^2 - E^2[/tex] is not changed by the Lorentz transformation, so it seems like a good equation to start from. Since the electric field does work on the particle the energy term gets bigger, which means the momentum term must get smaller. Because the particle gains y-velocity, the x-velocity must decrease if the momentum is going to decrease. Does this sound reasonable?
 

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