Finding the Average Force Acting on the Floor During a Vertical Jump

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The problem involves calculating the average force acting on the floor during a vertical jump, focusing on the dynamics of a student's jump from a squat position to a height of 3h/4. The context includes the heights of the student's center of mass in different positions and the mass of the student.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using the Work-Energy theorem to relate work done to changes in kinetic and potential energy. There are attempts to calculate initial speed and work done by the muscles versus the work done against gravity.

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Some participants have shared methods and reasoning but have not reached a definitive solution. There is an ongoing exploration of the components of work involved in the jump, particularly distinguishing between the positive work done by the muscles and the negative work done by gravity.

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Participants note the challenge of achieving a final answer or formula, indicating potential gaps in understanding or application of the concepts involved.

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Greetz :)

I recently found this problem and have made a few attempts at answering it but still have not found an answer i am 100% confident with, I would appreciate it if anyone who is keen to attempt it could give some advice and explanations for their reasoning in the solving of this question :)

A student of height H jumps vertically up from the squat postion. At the top point of the jump, the student's center of mass is at a height 3h/4 from the ground. Find the average force F acting on the floor prior to the moment when the student loses contact with the floor. It is known that the when the student stands on the floor, the center of mass is at a height h/2 from the floor; in the "squat" position, the center of mass is at a height h/4 from the floor. The mass of the student is m.
 
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Some initial thoughts:

The free fall trajectory starts from the height of h/2 (when the student is upright and ready to lose contact) to 3h/4. So, in effect the CM climbs by h/4 till the height becomes zero. So you can find the initial speed and KE = 1/2Mv^2.
The force is applied from the height of h/4 to h/2, so it is applied over a distance of h/4. Use the Work-Energy theorem:

[tex]W = \Delta E = \Delta (KE + PE)[/tex]

If you find work, then it's easy:

[tex]F_{av} = \frac{W}{\Delta h}[/tex]
 
Yeah i see what you mean and this was one of my methods but it didn't achieve a final answer.. or a definative formula..
 
lektor said:
Yeah i see what you mean and this was one of my methods but it didn't achieve a final answer.. or a definative formula..

I don't see any point where you get stuck. It's simple!
Just to clarify something else, the work W is the sum of the positive work done by the muscles and the negative work done by (constant) gravity. So you need to specifically determine the work done by the legs of the leaping person.
 
ramollari said:
I don't see any point where you get stuck. It's simple!
Just to clarify something else, the work W is the sum of the positive work done by the muscles and the negative work done by (constant) gravity. So you need to specifically determine the work done by the legs of the leaping person.


lol oh my...
sorry ! got it now thankyou ! :D
 

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