Calculating Vertical Support Forces on a Uniform Steel Beam

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The discussion revolves around calculating the vertical support forces on a uniform steel beam that has a mass of 1058 kg, with an identical beam resting on it. The original poster seeks guidance on determining the vertical support forces at both ends of the beam.

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  • Participants discuss the need to make assumptions regarding the geometry of the beams and the alignment of their centers of mass. There is a suggestion to sum the forces in the vertical direction and set them to zero. Questions arise about the correctness of these assumptions.

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The discussion has seen some productive exchanges, with participants exploring the implications of the beam's placement and the assumptions made about the load distribution. While one participant claims to have arrived at an answer, the conversation reflects ongoing exploration of the problem's setup.

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There is a mention of the top beam being placed all the way to the left, which may affect the calculations and assumptions regarding the support forces.

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A uniform steel beam has a mass of 1058 kg. On it is resting half of an identical beam.

What is the vertical support force at the right end?
What is the vertical support force at the left end?

Could someone please give me a start in the right direction? Thanks
 
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All you need to do is make some assumptions and sum the forces in the Y direction and set them to zero.

If you make the assumption that the beam is placed directly over the other beam and that the two centers of mass are in alignment at the midpoint of both spans and that the load is a point load then you can say:

[tex]m = 1.5*1058 kg[/tex]

The reaction forces at each end are going to be equal to each other and will total the overall weight of the beam system.

[tex]R_L = R_R = (.5)(1.5)(1058 kg)(9.81 \frac{m}{s^2})[/tex]

Are these assumptions about the problem's geometry correct?
 
haha wow i forgot to mention the placement. Sorry. The top beam (the one that is the half length) is placed all the way to the left

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I got the answer, thanks anyways :)
 
No problem-o. You now know you needed to sum the moments about one of the supports and set them to 0. Good job.
 

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