Very fast right hand rule question

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The discussion revolves around the application of the right hand rule in the context of magnetic forces acting on charged particles, specifically electrons in a magnetic field. The problem involves understanding the direction of force experienced by electrons moving in a magnetic field created by the Earth's magnetic field.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the use of the right hand rule versus the left hand rule, questioning the implications of the electron's negative charge on the direction of the force. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the direction of motion, magnetic field, and resulting force.

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Some participants have offered insights into the interpretation of the right hand rule and the significance of the electron's charge. There is an ongoing exploration of how to visualize the problem correctly, with references to vector concepts and cross products being mentioned, although some participants express uncertainty about these mathematical tools.

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Participants are grappling with the correct application of the right hand rule and the implications of using the left hand due to the negative charge of the electron. There is a noted confusion regarding the translation of the directional outcomes into the context of the problem.

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The electrons in the beam of a television tube have a kinetic energy of 2.40×10–15 J. Initially, the electrons move horizontally from west to east. The vertical component of the earth’s magnetic field points down, toward the surface of the earth, and has a magnitude of 2.00×10–5 T.

Just when i thought i had this right hand rule thing down, i come across this
heres what i did
used left hand, fingers down, thumb pointing right, force = out of page
yet the answer is the force is directed south??

what did i do wrong?
 
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The charge of an electron is negative. :)
so f=qv*b. when q is negative, force is in the opposite direction.

If you ask me, instead of thinking in terms of this rule, try think in terms of vectors and cross products
 
i have no clue how to do cross products :/ and i used left hand since its an electron :)
 
michaelw said:
heres what i did
used left hand, fingers down, thumb pointing right, force = out of page
yet the answer is the force is directed south??

what did i do wrong?
You are just interpreting the answer incorrectly. I assume your picture (mental or otherwise) shows East as going to the right of the page, and down as going down the page? The answer, given that, is out of the page--but out of the page = South! (Always translate the answer back into the language of the question.)

Since you seem to be having quite a time with the right hand rule, check out the links I provide here: https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=389039&postcount=8
 

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