Understanding Wave Graphs: 4t & 30° Phase Angle

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The discussion revolves around understanding the effects of the angular frequency and phase angle in the sinusoidal wave equation, specifically analyzing the equation Vs = Vm*sin(4t + 30°). Participants explore how changes in these parameters affect the graph of the wave, including frequency and phase shifts.

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  • One participant notes that the phase angle (30°) affects the horizontal shift of the sine wave, which is relevant for power factors and phase matching.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to understand the relationship between radians and degrees, suggesting that this is crucial for interpreting the graph correctly.
  • A different viewpoint explains that the angular frequency (4t) indicates that there are four wavelengths within a segment of 2π, contrasting it with a standard sine wave that would have only one wavelength over the same interval.
  • Participants discuss the general form of the wave equation, highlighting the roles of amplitude, angular velocity, phase angle, and vertical offset in shaping the wave's characteristics.

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There is no clear consensus among participants regarding the specific effects of the parameters on the graph, as multiple interpretations and explanations are presented. The discussion remains exploratory with various viewpoints expressed.

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Participants mention the importance of understanding basic relationships in wave behavior, such as frequency and period, but do not resolve the mathematical or conceptual nuances involved.

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This discussion may be useful for students or individuals seeking to deepen their understanding of wave mechanics, sinusoidal functions, and the implications of varying parameters in wave equations.

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Lately, I have been trying to get a deeper understanding of a few concepts, and I was trying to analylize a wave I found in my textbook:

I know the sinusoidal equation is:

[itex]Vs = Vm*sin({\omega}t + {\phi})[/itex]

The equation for the given wave is:

[itex]Vs = Vm*sin(4t + 30^o)[/itex]

My question is how does the 4t change this graph? Also, What does the phase angle change*?

If the equation was just [itex]Vs = Vm*sin(4t)[/itex], how would the graph change?

Thank you!

PS - Please excuse the terrible mspaint graph!
 

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Well, I may be very wrong, but the angle is the phase angle of the sinusoid. This comes into play when dealing with power factors. ie, phase matching.
hope this sheds some light...


(take everything with a grain of salt, it tastes better that way)
 
Maxwell said:
Lately, I have been trying to get a deeper understanding of a few concepts, and I was trying to analylize a wave I found in my textbook:

I know the sinusoidal equation is:

[itex]Vs = Vm*sin({\omega}t + {\phi})[/itex]

The equation for the given wave is:

[itex]Vs = Vm*sin(4t + 30^o)[/itex]

My question is how does the 4t change this graph? Also, What does the phase angle change*?

If the equation was just [itex]Vs = Vm*sin(4t)[/itex], how would the graph change?

Thank you!

PS - Please excuse the terrible mspaint graph!
you need to understand the relationship between radians and degrees..
[itex]{\omega}=2{\pi}/t[/itex] radians /sec
and how to convert between the two.. and where each one is on the graph ..
 
Maxwell said:
My question is how does the 4t change this graph? Also, What does the phase angle change?
If the equation was just [itex]Vs = Vm*sin(4t)[/itex], how would the graph change?
Actually the graph you attached explains it all.
Phase is basically offset of the regular sin(x) or cos(x), i.e. shift along the horizontal axis. While angular velocity/frquency (w = 4t) is the frequency of the signal, i.e. if it were just t, the sinusoidal graph would have just one wave-length through the period of 2pi, for 4t crudely speaking, you have 4 wave-lengths crammed into segment of 2pi.
So, I would read-up on basic relationship of frequency/period and how f(x) behaves: f(cx), f(x + c) and so on, it's explained in Calculus I.
 
It maybe worth looking into this deeper to show how different variables act on the wave.

Take the formula [itex]Vs = A*sin({\omega}t + {\phi})+C[/itex]

The A is the amplitude and represents the different between the upper and lower peaks.

The [itex]\omega[/itex] is the angular velocity: [itex]\omega = 2{\pi}f = 2{\pi}/T[/itex]

The [itex]\phi[/itex] is the phase angle, i.e. the horizontal offset graphically speaking.

The C is the vertical offset from the x-axis, usually defined as the DC element of the waveform (in electronics).
 

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