Chemistry Question: 2s Orbital & 3px Orbital | Evidence of Octet Stability

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework question regarding the nodal surfaces of 2s and 3px orbitals, as well as the stability of octet structures in atoms. It includes both theoretical aspects of atomic orbitals and conceptual understanding of chemical stability.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks about the number of nodal surfaces for 2s and 3px orbitals.
  • Another participant notes that the first question has been previously addressed in the forum.
  • One participant suggests that a 2s orbital has zero nodal surfaces and speculates that a 3px orbital has either three or one nodal surfaces, expressing uncertainty.
  • Regarding octet stability, a participant proposes that stability is indicated when an atom does not react with others, citing noble gases as an example.
  • Another participant agrees that chemical inertness supports the idea of stability associated with the octet configuration.
  • A participant seeks confirmation on the correctness of their answer regarding nodal surfaces, indicating uncertainty.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the number of nodal surfaces for the orbitals, and there is no consensus on the exact values. There is some agreement on the concept that octet structures contribute to chemical stability, but the discussion remains exploratory without definitive conclusions.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not provided detailed justifications for their claims about nodal surfaces, and there is a lack of consensus on the exact number of nodal surfaces for the 3px orbital. The discussion on octet stability is based on examples like noble gases but lacks a comprehensive exploration of other factors influencing stability.

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Hello everyone.
here i come back again.
I have a homework question that i really need help with. the question says:
How many nodal surfaces are there for a 2s orbital and for a 3px orbital?

There is another question that says: What evidence indicates that the octet structures might be more stable than others?

I am wating for ur respose...please respond to me as soon as possible... i really need ur help.
 
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First question has recently been asked and answered here, due a search. Second question is some how resonating with me ;)
 
amtmail said:
Hello everyone.
here i come back again.
I have a homework question that i really need help with. the question says:
How many nodal surfaces are there for a 2s orbital and for a 3px orbital?

There is another question that says: What evidence indicates that the octet structures might be more stable than others?

I am wating for ur respose...please respond to me as soon as possible... i really need ur help.
We can not respond until you post your thoughts first...
 
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ok i think i got it

for the first question...i think a 2s orbital has ero nodal surfaces and a 3px orbital has 3 or 1 nodal surfaces...i am not really sure

for the second question is it when the atom doesn't react with any other atom because it is stable.?? for ex. noble gases?? :confused:
 
amtmail said:
for the first question...i think a 2s orbital has ero nodal surfaces and a 3px orbital has 3 or 1 nodal surfaces...i am not really sure

for the second question is it when the atom doesn't react with any other atom because it is stable.?? for ex. noble gases?? :confused:

For your first question, this website should give you straightforward visual answers:http://www.shef.ac.uk/chemistry/orbitron/AOs/3s/index.html
 
amtmail said:
for the second question is it when the atom doesn't react with any other atom because it is stable.?? for ex. noble gases?? :confused:
Very good. Chemical inertness is definitely evidence of the stability that comes from the octet configuration.
 
please inform me.

Thanx for answering my second question. I was wondering if u could tell me if my answer to the 1st question was right. please tell me if it is right or wrong because i am not sure abt it.. :rolleyes:
 

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