Determining Thevenin Equiv. Circuit & R Load for Max Power Transfer

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The discussion focuses on determining the Thevenin equivalent circuit for a given circuit and finding the load resistance (R load) for maximum power transfer. It involves theoretical and practical aspects of circuit analysis, particularly the application of Thevenin's theorem.

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  • One participant expresses uncertainty about applying Thevenin's theorem and shares their calculated equivalent resistance of 15 ohms, seeking assistance.
  • Another participant provides a method for finding Thevenin resistance by disabling sources and calculates it as 13.85 ohms, suggesting that this value is also the load resistance for maximum power transfer.
  • A later reply reiterates the calculation of Thevenin resistance and voltage, confirming the load resistance for maximum power transfer as 13.85 ohms.
  • One participant questions the omission of R1 in the calculations, seeking clarification on its relevance and asking about inputting RLOAD into Multisim.
  • Another response explains that R1 can be dismissed when the current source is opened, as no current flows through it.

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Participants express differing views on the relevance of R1 in the calculations, indicating some disagreement. The calculations for Thevenin resistance and load resistance for maximum power transfer are presented, but no consensus is reached on the treatment of R1.

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There are unresolved questions regarding the assumptions made in the calculations, particularly concerning the role of R1 in determining Thevenin resistance and voltage.

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I'm trying to determine the Thevenin equivalent circuit for the attached circuit. Also, the value of the load resistance R load for maximum power transfer. I'm not to sure how exactly the Thevenin theorem operates but I simply added my resistor in series and parallel (where appropriate). I suppose that gave me "R equivalence" which equaled 15 ohms. Not sure if that is correct after shorting out the voltages and open the currents (zeroing out). Can someone help figure the "load resistance for max. power transfer?" I'm attaching the diagram here.

thanks,
air
 

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The Thevenin resistance is easy to find, you disable the current (turn it into an open circuit) and voltage sources (turn it into a short circuit), and then find the equivalent resistance across RLOAD (removing the resistor RLOAD itself of course). So you get Rt = R2 // R3 = (20^-1 + 45^-1)^-1 = 13.85 ohm.

To find the Thevenin voltage, one way is to find the open circuit voltage across where RLOAD (again RLOAD itself is removed), by using superposition. The voltage across RLOAD due to the current source only is 0 (the disabled voltage source provides a path directly to ground). The across RLOAD due to the voltage source is 20/65 * 6 V = 1.85V (by voltage division).

The value of RLOAD for maximum power transfer equal to the Thevenin resistance, which is 13.85 ohms.
 
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The Thevenin resistance is easy to find, you disable the current (turn it into an open circuit) and voltage sources (turn it into a short circuit), and then find the equivalent resistance across RLOAD (removing the resistor RLOAD itself of course). So you get Rt = R2 // R3 = (20^-1 + 45^-1)^-1 = 13.85 ohm.

To find the Thevenin voltage, one way is to find the open circuit voltage across where RLOAD (again RLOAD itself is removed), by using superposition. The voltage across RLOAD due to the current source only is 0 (the disabled voltage source provides a path directly to ground). The across RLOAD due to the voltage source is 20/65 * 6 V = 1.85V (by voltage division).

The value of RLOAD for maximum power transfer equal to the Thevenin resistance, which is 13.85 ohms.

okay, I understand what you did, but I do not understand why you ignored the R1 value? Also, do you know how to input RLOAD into multisim?

thanks,
Air
 
airkapp said:
okay, I understand what you did, but I do not understand why you ignored the R1 value? Also, do you know how to input RLOAD into multisim?

thanks,
Air

When you open the current source, no current flows through R1, so it can be dismissed from the calculations of Rt and Vt.
 

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