Is this drawing just pure nonsense?

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The discussion revolves around the causes of the seasons on Earth, specifically addressing misconceptions about the role of the Earth's distance from the Sun in relation to seasonal changes. Participants explore the relationship between the Earth's elliptical orbit and axial tilt, as well as the implications of these factors on temperature variations throughout the year.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that the distance from the Sun does not control the seasons, emphasizing that the Earth's axial tilt has a more significant effect than the distance variations caused by its elliptical orbit.
  • One participant notes that the Earth's orbit varies in distance throughout the year, but claims this variation is insufficient to explain the temperature differences between seasons.
  • Another participant suggests that any significant change to the Earth's orbit would have catastrophic consequences, implying that such changes are not relevant to seasonal temperature variations.
  • A participant acknowledges their misunderstanding of the topic, indicating a realization of incorrect assumptions regarding the causes of the seasons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the understanding of what causes the seasons, with some asserting that the distance from the Sun is not a primary factor, while others seem to struggle with grasping the established explanations. The discussion remains unresolved with differing viewpoints on the topic.

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Participants reference specific astronomical events and measurements, but there are no detailed mathematical steps provided to support their claims. The discussion also highlights a reliance on assumptions about the relationship between distance and temperature that may not be universally accepted.

scott_sieger
can't delete this thread...

a drawing that has proved to be nonsense...sorry
 

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The distance from sun to Earth does not control the seasons. We are furthest from the sun in summer here in the northern hemisphere. The ellipticity of the Earth's orbit has about 1000 times the effect on the distance from any patch of surface to the sun as the axial tilt does.

You keep pushing this, indicating you really don't understand what causes the seasons. Others have done a very good job explaining it, but you still don't get it. I suggest you get a good book from the library and study up on what causes the seasons.

BTW, anything that could noticeably change the Earth's orbit would be much more cataclysmic than any temperature change that would result.

Njorl
 
Check this for instance:

It is true that the Earth's distance from the Sun actually does vary during a year--but it is not enough to drive the seasons. The Earth's orbit is an ellipse with the Sun sitting at one foci. The closest approach of the Earth to the Sun is called perihelion, and happens on January 4, 2003 about two weeks after the winter solstice. Aphelion occurs when Earth is farthest from the Sun, and will happen on July 4, 2003, a couple of weeks after the summer solstice. The difference in distance? About 3 million miles, or about 3% of Earth’s total distance from the Sun, not nearly enough to explain the temperature difference between a cold day in January vs. a hot day July.

http://www.space.com/searchforlife/seti_devore_solstice_021212.html

I was going to add some comments but I see that Njorl beat me to it.
 
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Ok...ahhh I see what I am assuming is totally off the planet...

Thanks guys,
 

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