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| May26-05, 11:20 AM | #1 |
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Hi All,
I am new here, Iam interested in Cosmology, sometimes I find many questions which I don't find its answers directly in text books or I read it but couldn't understand it, for example I have a confusion between horizon, particle horizon and event horizon, would you please help me in how to differentiate between them. Eman |
| May26-05, 01:52 PM | #2 |
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General relativity tells us that we can only have received signals from a finite portion of the universe since the big bang. This defines the particle horizon. See http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmo_03.htm for more information.
Black holes have an event horizon, which is the surface beyond which it is impossible for light to escape. In models of the universe where the expansion is accelerating there is a cosmological event horizon, meaning that eventually we will lose contact with distant galaxies. Note that there is considerable confusion about such horizons. You might want to have a look at http://www.chronon.org/articles/cosmichorzns.html and http://xxx.arxiv.cornell.edu/abs/astro-ph/0310808. |
| May26-05, 02:12 PM | #3 |
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Just one clarification to make. The cosmological event horizon is also receeding, and receeding faster than any object inside of it. Distant galaxies will eventually fade from view as they become too distant to detect, but will not cross an event horizon and suddenly disappear.
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| May26-05, 02:48 PM | #4 |
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| May27-05, 12:42 AM | #5 |
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I see no inconsistency there. We will observe galaxies approach the cosmological event horizon, but never see them cross it. The same thing as watching an astronaut fall into a black hole.
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| May27-05, 02:11 AM | #6 |
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| May27-05, 05:39 AM | #7 |
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In the case of a galaxy crossing our cosmological event horizon at a given proper time T of the galaxy, we will never see any events happening after T. We'll just see events up to time T being asymptotically slowed down and redshifted. In this respect it's the same as watching an astronaut falling into a black hole and crossing the event horizon at proper time T.
I suppose to be consistent with http://www.chronon.org/articles/blackholes.html I ought to deny that the cosmological event horizon exists, but clearly current theory says that it does. I'll have to think about that. |
| May28-05, 01:21 PM | #8 |
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Thanks a lot Chronon, I am appreciating your help.
Eman |
| May29-05, 07:58 PM | #9 |
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This may be a good reference:
G. F. R. Ellis and T. Rothman, "Lost horizons," Am. J. Phys. 61 (1993) 883. Here is the abstract: Cosmological horizons play an essential role in determining the causal structure of spacetime and are of central importance in the inflationary universe scenario. We review the topic of horizons in simple language, pointing out a number of widespread misconceptions. The use of spacetime diagrams plotted in terms of proper time and proper distance coordinates helps sort out some of these difficulties. They complement the widely used conformal diagrams, which show causal relations clearly but severely distort proper distances. In addition, Comments on ``Lost Horizons'' by G. F. R. Ellis and T. Rothman [Am. J. Phys. 61 (10), 883–893 (1993)] by Michael Rauch, Am. J. Phys. 63 87 (1995) Past light cone shape and refocusing in cosmology, A Response to Michael Rauch's ``Comments on `Lost Horizons' '' [Am. J. Phys. 63, 87 (1995)] by G. F. R. Ellis et al., Am. J. Phys. 63 88 (1995) Start here: http://www.aapt.org/ajp/ |
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