Analytic Geometry: Proving R Lies on Ellipse

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The discussion revolves around a problem in analytic geometry involving concentric circles and an ellipse. The original poster seeks to prove that a specific point R lies on the ellipse defined by the equation ((x^2)/9) + ((y^2)/4) = 1, based on the geometric relationships between points P and Q on the inner and outer circles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the geometric relationships between points P, Q, and R, questioning the distance between P and Q and discussing the coordinates of R based on the properties of the circles. There is also an attempt to relate the coordinates of R to the ellipse equation.

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The discussion is active, with participants raising questions about the distances involved and the relationships between the coordinates of the points. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of equations to eliminate variables, but no consensus has been reached on the proof itself.

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Participants are working with the constraints of the problem, including the equations of the circles and the ellipse, and are considering the implications of the right triangle formed by points P, Q, and R.

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Hi all. I have a analytic geometry question that I need a bit of help with.
consider the concentric circles with the equations:

[tex]x^2 + y^2 = 9[/tex]
and
[tex]x^2 +y^2 = 4[/tex]

A radius from the center O intersects the inner circle at P and the outer circle at Q. The line parallel to the x-axis through P meets the line parallel to the y-axis through Q at the point R. Prove that R lies on the ellipse
[tex]((x^2)/9) + ((y^2)/4) =1[/tex]

Some of the facts I've established:

the distance from P to Q is 1 for sure. Also, the triagle PQR is a right angle triangle. using the ellipse equation, i know that the distance from the center to the vertex is 3, and that the distance from the center to the focus is the square root of 5.
 
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Why wouldn't the distance of PQ be 5?
 
if the radius of the inner circle is 2 and the outer one is 3, is the distance between them not 1?
 
Yeah, for some reason I wasn't thinking about those being the squares of the radii. Anyway, I think [itex]R[/itex] would have the ascissa of [itex]Q[/itex] and the ordinate of [itex]P[/itex]. If you solve the respective equations for them, you find [itex](\sqrt{9-y^2}, \sqrt{4-x^2})[/itex]. I would try solve the equation of ellipse for x and then y and it should be equivalent to the coordinates. I'm not very good at making proofs though, so there might be a problem with that way.
 
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Write the point P as [tex](x_0,y_0)[/tex] and Q as [tex](x_1,y_1)[/tex]. The The fact that P and Q lie on the same radius means that [tex]\frac{y_0}{x_0}= \frac{y_1}{x_1}[/tex]. The horizontal line through P (parallel to the x-axis) is y= y0 and the vertical line through Q (parallel to the y-axis) is x= x1. The point R has coordinates (x1,y0). Of course, [tex]x_0^2+ y_0^2= 4[/tex] and [tex]x_1^2+ y_1^2= 9[/tex]. Thats a total of 3 equation is 4 unknowns. Use the equations to eliminate x1 and y0. I wouldn't be at all surprized if you were left with [tex]\frac{x_0^2}{9}+{y_1^2}{4}= 1[/tex]!
 

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