Are Other Dimension Universes Plausible?

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The discussion revolves around the plausibility of other-dimensional universes and the nature of dimensions within our universe, touching on theories such as string theory and M-theory. Participants explore definitions, implications, and the speculative nature of these concepts, considering both theoretical and philosophical aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the idea of other-dimensional universes is scientific or purely speculative.
  • There is mention of M-theory proposing that our universe is 11-dimensional, with implications for both additional dimensions and separate universes.
  • Some argue that while separate universes are theoretically possible, they may be irrelevant to our universe since they would not interact with it.
  • Participants highlight the need for clear definitions of "dimension" and "universe" to advance the discussion meaningfully.
  • There are claims that string theory suggests gravity might "leak" into other universes, raising questions about the nature of these universes and their relation to ours.
  • Concerns are raised about the fine-tuning of forces like gravity and the cosmological constant, questioning how energy transfer between universes could occur without catastrophic consequences.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no consensus on the definitions of dimensions and universes, the implications of string theory, or the relevance of separate universes. The discussion remains unresolved with competing perspectives on these topics.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the speculative nature of discussing separate universes, emphasizing the lack of empirical evidence and the need for clear definitions to facilitate the discussion.

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I mean is it somewhat science or is it purely sci-fi?
 
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Gold Barz said:
I mean is it somewhat science or is it purely sci-fi?

Do you mean more dimensions in our universe or other universes with a different number of dimensions?
 
yes, our universe itself acording to m-theory is 11 dimensional
 
SpaceTiger said:
Do you mean more dimensions in our universe or other universes with a different number of dimensions?

Both...string theorists say both is true, that our brane is 11 dimensions but it is also just one "slice", so to speak.
 
Gold Barz said:
Both...string theorists say both is true, that our brane is 11 dimensions but it is also just one "slice", so to speak.

Both are certainly possible, though any talk about separate universes is pointless. Separate universes would, by definition, have no impact on ours, so we can only speculate about them. As for extra spatial dimensions in our universe, let's wait until it's actually observed before we jump to any conclusions. I'm not well versed in string theory, but I do know that it hasn't produced any successful predictions yet.
 
What is the definition of a dimension and the definition of a universe? If we answer unambiguously these questions we can probably proceed to find answers to the original question.
Also as SpaceTiger mentioned, if we cannot have any interaction with other universes then it is pointless to discuss about them.
 
Well string theorists say that gravity might "leak" into other universes, I mean these "higher dimensions" and "other universes" are said to come right out of the String Theory equations, but of course it is all just scientific equations and there is no evidence, but it is still scientific, right?
 
Gold Barz said:
Well string theorists say that gravity might "leak" into other universes

I would say this makes them part of our universe, by my definition, but ramollari is absolutely right that we need to agree on a definition of "universe".
 
Even if these other universes are extremely different from ours?
 
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Gold Barz said:
Even if these other universes are extremely different from ours?
When somebody tells you that out universe is extremely energetic (as the quantum theorists do today), you should ask yourself why things like gravitation, cosmological expansion, etc are so fine-tuned. Then after you've managed to convince yourself that this can be true, you might want to ask yourself what our universe would look like if gravity or any other force can "leak" into another universe.

If gravity and the cosmological constant have been fine-tuned for 13.7 Billion years so that the univese has not collapsed or exploded, there's got to be one heck of a damping factor in play if we can strip gravitational energy out of our universe and give it to another one without causing the immediate collapse or explosion of the other.
 

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