Thermal equilibrium in statistical physics

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Thermal equilibrium in statistical physics is defined as the state where the maximum number of realizations occurs, specifically when the product of phase space volumes (omega_1 * omega_2) of two subsystems is maximized. This condition leads to equal temperatures in the subsystems. The discussion highlights the connection between maximizing phase space volume and statistical entropy, as articulated through Boltzmann's formula. The participants express confusion regarding the foundational assumptions needed to derive these results from thermodynamics.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of statistical mechanics concepts, particularly phase space volume.
  • Familiarity with Boltzmann's formula and its implications for statistical entropy.
  • Knowledge of canonical ensembles in statistical physics.
  • Basic principles of thermodynamics, especially the concept of entropy.
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  • Study Boltzmann's formula in detail to understand its role in statistical mechanics.
  • Explore the derivation of the canonical ensemble and its significance in thermal equilibrium.
  • Investigate the relationship between phase space volume and statistical entropy.
  • Review thermodynamic principles related to entropy maximization and equilibrium states.
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Students and researchers in physics, particularly those focusing on statistical mechanics and thermodynamics, will benefit from this discussion. It is also valuable for anyone seeking to deepen their understanding of thermal equilibrium and entropy in physical systems.

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I am mixed up about thermal equilibrium in statistical physics. And I hope you excuse me if I use unconventional words, I am from Sweden, my book is in german and I try to express myself in english.

In my book (Noltings "Grundkurs theoretische Physik, Band 6") thermal equilibrium is defined as the state which is characterized by the maximum number of possible realizations. Further, he says that in a system concisting of two subsystems (that can exchange energy) this is exactly when omega_1 * omega_2 has a maximum, where the omegas are the phase space volumes. He goes on to show that this means that the temperature in the two systems is equal.

So far so good, and the main argument, that the phase space volume should be maximized, seems plausible, but I can't fully understand it. Could someone give me a hint? Or is this reasoning OK while it leads to results we know are right from experience? I find the book really nice, but this arguing isn't really developed by the author, or is it just way to obvious?
 
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It's highly intuitive if one takes into account Boltzmann's formula.Then u realize that the quantity which is really maximized is the statistical entropy.

Daniel.
 
Hi, and thanks for the quick reply!

Well I agree, you can see it in that formula, but it's sort of a "hen/chicken and the egg"-problem for me; what comes first? If you with Boltzmann's formula mean the distribution for the canonic ensemble (or the reduced distribution of Maxwell-Boltzmann?) I can see it in the logical steps. But doesn't your arguing need us to already know that maximization of entropy means finding equilibrium? I am trying to sort of forget that right now, and then derive the results that are known from thermodynamics. Or is that wrong/impossible? Should we already assume that we from the thermodynamics know that the entropy is maximized?

I'm going to have a look at it all again tomorrow, right now it's late and I'm confused, but thanks anyway! I'll probably see some light tomorrow, along with new problems, and I'll write again =)

/Jonas
 

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