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The discussion revolves around calculating the internal energy of one mole of air at a temperature of 35°C, focusing on the degrees of freedom of the air molecules, primarily nitrogen and oxygen.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between kinetic energy and degrees of freedom, with one participant attempting to derive the internal energy formula based on the kinetic energy contributions of the gas molecules.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relevant formulas and definitions, with some participants clarifying the relationships between variables. The discussion is productive, as participants are engaging with the concepts and definitions involved.

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Participants mention the challenge of remembering the various symbols and their meanings in the context of the problem. There is also a reference to a specific physics course, indicating a potential context for the problem.

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This Q has me stumped, I'm still flicking through some web pages and my textbook, but been unable to find a useful formula to work it out yet:


What is the internal energy U of one mole of air on a very hot summer day (35C)?

In answering the questions in this problem, assume that the molecules in air (mainly N2 and O2) have five degrees of freedom at this temperature (three translational and two rotational).

:confused:
 
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Ivegottheskill said:
This Q has me stumped, I'm still flicking through some web pages and my textbook, but been unable to find a useful formula to work it out yet:




:confused:


For each molecule, the kinetic energy associated with each degree of freedom is [itex]\frac{1}{2}kT[/itex], so the kinetic energy of each molecule in the O2, N2 mixture is [itex]\frac{5}{2}kT[/itex]. Summing over the entire gas gives the internal energy [itex]U = N\frac{5}{2}kT = nN{_\mathrm{A}} \frac{5}{2}kT = \frac{5}{2}nRT[/itex].

P.S. Not PHYS1901 by any chance?
 
No. PHYS 1001 actually :eek:
I just found this forum, looks like a useful resource all round.

Thanks for clearing that up. My main problem I think is remembering all the letters and where they come from.

BTW, you have U = N*5/2*k*T = n*N_a*5/2*k*T

The only thing that changes there is N --> n*N_a

What is "N" if N=n*N_A

(Haven't worked out how to use the "Latex" code yet)
 
[itex]k[/itex] is defined as [itex]\frac{R}{N_\mathrm{A}}[/itex], N is the number of gas molecules.
 

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