Car 1 is pushed at a velocity of 5m/s

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The discussion revolves around a hypothetical scenario involving two cars, where Car 1 is pushed toward Car 2 at a velocity of 5 m/s, and upon collision, Car 1 bounces back at 0.5 m/s while Car 2 moves at 5.5 m/s. Participants explore the feasibility of this scenario in terms of conservation of momentum and energy.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the conservation of linear momentum must hold true in collisions, suggesting the equation m1v1 + m2v2 = constant.
  • One participant questions what the "constant" is in the context of the problem.
  • Another participant attempts to calculate the total momentum before and after the collision, suggesting that the proposed velocities do not conserve energy if the masses are equal.
  • Some participants indicate that the scenario could be plausible if Car 1 is heavier than Car 2, implying that mass differences could affect the outcome.
  • There is acknowledgment that while momentum may be conserved, energy may not be conserved in this collision scenario.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that momentum must be conserved in the collision, but there is disagreement regarding the conservation of energy and the implications of mass differences between the cars. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall feasibility of the proposed velocities.

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Limitations include assumptions about the masses of the cars and the nature of the collision (elastic vs. inelastic), which are not fully explored in the discussion.

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Car "1" is pushed at a velocity of 5m/s

Car "1" is pushed at a velocity of 5m/s toward Car "2" (car 2 is not moving).
When they hit, Cart 1 bounces back a .5m/s and car 2 moves at 5.5m/s.
Is that possible?

Why or why not?

I think that it's not possible, but I'm not sure why. Maybe b/c energy was gained somehow for car 2 to bounce back faster, which is not possible.

How do i prove that?
 
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Conservation of linear momentum.

m1v1 + m2v2 = constant

- Warren
 
Originally posted by chroot
Conservation of linear momentum.

m1v1 + m2v2 = constant

- Warren

What is the constant?
 
so would it be (5*5)+(5*-0.5)=5*5.5+0, 22.5=27.5 ?
Is that the proof that it is not possible?
 
Originally posted by marshall4
What is the constant?
Whatever it was at the start of the problem is what it will always be. That's what 'constant' means.

- Warren
 
Originally posted by marshall4
so would it be (5*5)+(5*-0.5)=5*5.5+0, 22.5=27.5 ?
Is that the proof?
Not quite. Try this:

Initially, total momentum is (assuming the cars have the same mass):

m1v1 + m2v2 = m * 5 + m * 0 = 5m

In the end, if the cars did what the problem said, the total momentum would be

m1v1 + m2v2 = m * -0.5 + m * 5.5 = 5m

which is the same answer. The total momentum is the same before and after, so the result is plausible. The actual velocities that would result in an experiment of this sort would depend upon the "elasticity" of the collision, which is something you'll probably learn about later.

- Warren
 
Actually, lol, you're right russ. Sure, this proposed collision conserves momentum, but it does not conserve energy (assuming the cars have the same mass).

*slaps forehead*

- Warren
 
Momentum before must equal moment after

5. m/s equals 5.5 m/s + - 0.5 m/s

Nautica
 

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