Solving Spring-Carts Exploding: Find Speed of M1 & M2

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The problem involves two carts with different masses being pushed toward each other by a spring, which is compressed and then releases the carts. The subject area includes concepts of energy conservation and momentum in mechanics.

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  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of energy and momentum, questioning how to set up the equations based on initial and final states. There is uncertainty about the expressions for potential and kinetic energy, as well as the implications of the spring's potential energy being zero after release.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, identifying key principles to apply. Some have noted the need for two equations to solve for the unknown speeds of the carts, and guidance has been provided to consider both energy and momentum conservation.

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There is a focus on the initial conditions of the carts being at rest and the spring being compressed, which may influence the setup of the equations. Participants are exploring the implications of the spring's potential energy being zero after the carts are released.

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A massless spring of spring constant 20 N/m is placed between two carts. Cart 1 has a mass M1 = 5 kg and Cart 2 has a mass M2 = 3.5 kg. The carts are pushed toward one another until the spring is compressed a distance 1.8 m. The carts are then released and the spring pushes them apart. After the carts are free of the spring, what are their speeds?

i know both momentum and energy conservation applies here, but don't know where to start...
both carts are initially at rest,

so I'm guessing : PE(initial) = PE(final) + KE (final)
 
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You are correct: Conservation of energy and momentum is the way to deal with this problem. So your starting point should be obvious: Write down the initial energy and momentum (these are known) and equate them to the final energy and momentum respectively. This will give you 2 equations in 2 unknowns (v1 and v2).
 
also, wouldn't PE final be zero too? after the carts are released, the spring would be relaxed again, thus no compression, thus zero..

that'll make it: initial PE = final KE

but i don't know where to go from here
 
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That's right, the final potential energy of the spring is zero.
What are the expressions for the initial energy, initial momentum, final momentum and final energy?
 
now we have initial PE = final KE,

it goes...

.5kx^2 = .5m(1)v(1)^2 + .5m(2)v(2)^2

does it make sense? but the problem now is i have two variables to solve...one equation...
 
Don't forget conservation of momentum. That will give you the second equation that you need.
 

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