submarine down

hypatia

A Russian sub is stuck on the bottom of the ocean, prop cought up in fishing net and cable. 190 meters deep, food and water for 5 days..but air? Maybe only as little as 2 days.
Dosen't someone have some kind of rescue-bot..like a ALVIN that could cut them free? Like the ones they used to film and collect stuff from the Titanic?

*Townsend*

Quote by hypatia

A Russian sub is stuck on the bottom of the ocean, prop cought up in fishing net and cable. 190 meters deep, food and water for 5 days..but air? Maybe only as little as 2 days.
Dosen't someone have some kind of rescue-bot..like a ALVIN that could cut them free? Like the ones they used to film and collect stuff from the Titanic?

But what if the Russians don't want the rest of the world to know what is on that sub? Top secret usually trumps human life.....

wolram

Quote by hypatia

A Russian sub is stuck on the bottom of the ocean, prop cought up in fishing net and cable. 190 meters deep, food and water for 5 days..but air? Maybe only as little as 2 days.
Dosen't someone have some kind of rescue-bot..like a ALVIN that could cut them free? Like the ones they used to film and collect stuff from the Titanic?

Not sure, but onboard rescue suits are good for 5-600ft, rescue chambers
about 800ft and i think the US has a vehicle good for 2000 ft may be more.

hypatia

oh geez, didnt think of the top secret code of death thingie. There is 5 men on board, maybe they could rescure only the non-spies?

hypatia

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Not sure, but onboard rescue suits are good for 5-600ft, rescue chambers
about 800ft and i think the US has a vehicle good for 2000 ft may be more.

thats what I was thinking too..190 meters is about 650 ft of water? They must be practised in decompression ascensions?

Daminc

I think we (the british) have two submarines that can be used for deepsea rescue. We offered to help the last time they lost a sub but they took to long in saying yes. I believe they have already asked us for help (my mate watched the news) in this matter.

from another news source:

Altogether, nine Russian ships and one from Japan were taking part in the operation to raise the stricken vessel.

Japan's Kyodo news agency quoted the Defence Agency as saying Japan would send four vessels.

Interfax said naval authorities were also in contact with U.S. naval forces in the Pacific to see if they could help.

After the Kursk disaster, Russian navy command faced strong public criticism for being too slow in requesting foreign assistance.

Moonbear

Quote by Daminc

I think we (the british) have two submarines that can be used for deepsea rescue. We offered to help the last time they lost a sub but they took to long in saying yes. I believe they have already asked us for help (my mate watched the news) in this matter.

from another news source:

Slow in requesting foreign assistance? They outright refused it when offered from several countries! I don't know what was on that last sub, but apparently it was worth sacrificing a crew to keep it out of view of international rescuers.

Good to know that this time they are accepting assistance.

hypatia

The UK and the USA have sent aid. Interesting side note... this is the first time sense WW2 that the USA has been allowed to fly a military plan over the area.
I hope they reach them in time. A blurb I heard on the news said ships were dragging the area with large nets? in hopes of snagging it? Thats a mighty big net.

wolram

Didn't they slice part of it off and just raise that? as i understand the russian
subs are death traps.

daleg

yes the us has one called a dsrv "deep submergance rescue vehicle" it can go down to 2500 meters but just like the kursk the russians dont want help until its to late

Gokul43201

To make up for the lack of references so far :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4747783.stm

http://www.marinetimes.com/story.php...25-1014274.php

Smurf

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Submarine Down

So... When was it up?

dduardo

Didn't these people see K-19? They should know the procedure...

O wait, that sub didn't survive...um...yeah....

Hmm....Why don't they start putting the men into the torpedo chambers and launching them to the surface?

stoned

Quote by wolram

Didn't they slice part of it off and just raise that? as i understand the russian
subs are death traps.

I don't want to be rude, but British subs are even worse. Canada bought 4 preety new diesel submarines from Royal Navy for 700 million $, and one almost sunk on Atlantic Ocean and the rest of them are in dry docks in Canada requiring extensive repair.
Canada could have get excellent German, French or Dutch subs for that amount of cash, but being in fact collony of Britain, Canadian government had to listen to their masters.

meteor

It panned out Ok, a rescue submersible cut the cables of the fishing net, and the sailors are unharmed

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4128614.stm

It would be horrible to be trapped in a small space and seeing that the oxygen supplies dwindle progressively. I possibly would be on the edge of madness, specially if I had I mind what happened to submarine Kursk a few years ago

*Lacy33*

We can all be thankful they are safe this morning and that so many stepped in to help.

Many things to consider.

S

hypatia

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It panned out Ok, a rescue submersible cut the cables of the fishing net, and the sailors are unharmed

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4128614.stm

It would be horrible to be trapped in a small space and seeing that the oxygen supplies dwindle progressively. I possibly would be on the edge of madness, specially if I had I mind what happened to submarine Kursk a few years ago

I was thrilled to hear they are safe

I'm sure if it were me in there, I would of seen the brink of madness as well. Of course on being rescued, I would of had to make them all swear a pact of silence.

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hypatia	submarine down Tweet A Russian sub is stuck on the bottom of the ocean, prop cought up in fishing net and cable. 190 meters deep, food and water for 5 days..but air? Maybe only as little as 2 days. Dosen't someone have some kind of rescue-bot..like a ALVIN that could cut them free? Like the ones they used to film and collect stuff from the Titanic?

hypatia	submarine down oh geez, didnt think of the top secret code of death thingie. There is 5 men on board, maybe they could rescure only the non-spies?

wolram Blog Entries: 1 Recognitions: Gold Member	Didn't they slice part of it off and just raise that? as i understand the russian subs are death traps.

daleg	yes the us has one called a dsrv "deep submergance rescue vehicle" it can go down to 2500 meters but just like the kursk the russians dont want help until its to late

Gokul43201 Recognitions: Gold Member Science Advisor Staff Emeritus	To make up for the lack of references so far : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4747783.stm http://www.marinetimes.com/story.php...25-1014274.php

dduardo Recognitions: Staff Emeritus	Didn't these people see K-19? They should know the procedure... O wait, that sub didn't survive...um...yeah.... Hmm....Why don't they start putting the men into the torpedo chambers and launching them to the surface?

meteor Blog Entries: 4	It panned out Ok, a rescue submersible cut the cables of the fishing net, and the sailors are unharmed http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4128614.stm It would be horrible to be trapped in a small space and seeing that the oxygen supplies dwindle progressively. I possibly would be on the edge of madness, specially if I had I mind what happened to submarine Kursk a few years ago

Lacy33	We can all be thankful they are safe this morning and that so many stepped in to help. Many things to consider. S