Rearranging Equation: Where is My Mistake?

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The discussion revolves around the rearrangement of an equation involving variables Z, Y, X, W, V, and U. Participants are attempting to clarify the equation's structure and identify mistakes in the rearrangement process. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanation.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion over the original equation Z=Y+(X/W)Ve(^(WU) -1) and requests clarification on the terms, particularly the meaning of V and the expression e(^(WU) - 1).
  • Another participant questions the rearranged solution provided, noting the presence of U on the right side of the equation and suggesting it may have been intended to be V instead.
  • A later reply proposes a step-by-step approach to rearranging the equation, assuming a specific interpretation of the exponential term and providing an alternative expression for U based on that assumption.
  • Participants highlight the ambiguity in the notation used, particularly regarding the exponential term, and discuss different interpretations that could lead to varying results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the correct interpretation of the equation or the rearrangement process. Multiple interpretations and approaches are presented, indicating ongoing disagreement and uncertainty.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential ambiguities in the notation and the assumptions made regarding the variables involved, which may affect the rearrangement outcomes. The discussion reflects different understandings of the equation's structure and the implications of those interpretations.

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I'm trying to rearange an equation but don't manage to get the right results so I guess the rearranging did not work out properly. Where is my mistake?

Z=Y+(X/W)Ve(^(WU) -1)
Y=0


my sollution:
U=ln (Z/((X/W)U))+1 /W

thanks a lot

hexa
 
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hexa said:
Z=Y+(X/W)Ve(^(WU) -1)
I don't really get this equation. Can you write it in a clearer way? What's V, and is it e ^(WU - 1) or e ^(WU) - 1?
Viet Dao,
 
hexa said:
my sollution:
U=ln (Z/((X/W)U))+1 /W
What happens to V? Why is there a U on the right? Is that supposed to be V? And yeah, what does e(^(WU)-1) mean? Did you mean to write e^(WU-1)?
 
hexa said:
I'm trying to rearange an equation but don't manage to get the right results so I guess the rearranging did not work out properly. Where is my mistake?

Z=Y+(X/W)Ve(^(WU) -1)
Y=0


my sollution:
U=ln (Z/((X/W)U))+1 /W

thanks a lot

hexa

I am not clear on what e(^(WU)-1) could mean. I'm going to assume that it was e^(WU-1) (eWU-1). The other possiblility is e^(WU)- 1 (eWU-1.

If Y= 0, then the equation is really Z= (X/W)V eWU-1. Divide both sides by (X/W)V and we have (WZ)/(XV)= eWU-1. Take the natural logarithm of both sides to get ln((WZ)/(XV))= WU-1. Add 1 to both sides: WU= 1+ ln((WZ)/(XV). Finally, divide both sides by W and you have
U= (1+ ln((WZ)/(XV)))/W.

Of the problem was, in fact, Z= (X/W)V (eWU-1) then start out the same as above- divide by (X/W)V to get (WZ)/(XV)= eWU-1.
Add 1 to both sides: eWU= 1+(WZ)/(XV). Take logarithms of both sides: WU= ln(1+ (WZ)/(XV)). Finally, divide both sides by W:
U= ln(1+(WZ)/(XV))/W.
 

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