I think steryotype is not really good

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The discussion revolves around the concept of stereotypes, particularly in relation to personal hygiene practices, cultural norms, and perceptions of individuals based on their attire or religious beliefs. Participants explore various viewpoints on the implications of stereotypes in social contexts, including their moral connotations and potential consequences.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express the view that stereotypes are not good, citing personal practices related to undressing before entering the bathroom.
  • Others challenge the initial premise, sharing their own experiences of entering the bathroom fully clothed and questioning the relevance of the original question.
  • There are assertions about the nature of stereotypes, with some arguing that the term does not apply in certain contexts, such as religious practices regarding modesty.
  • Participants discuss the implications of stereotypes on perceptions of cleanliness and attire, with some expressing discomfort regarding specific clothing choices in social situations.
  • Concerns are raised about the stereotyping of women and cultural practices, with conflicting views on whether such stereotypes are justified or harmful.
  • Some participants reflect on the broader implications of stereotypes, questioning whether they inherently carry negative moral connotations or if they can have undesirable social consequences.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple competing views, with participants expressing differing opinions on the nature and implications of stereotypes. There is no consensus on whether stereotypes are inherently negative or how they should be understood in various contexts.

Contextual Notes

Participants' arguments are influenced by personal experiences and cultural backgrounds, leading to a variety of interpretations of what constitutes a stereotype and its implications.

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can u please tell me what you think about it ?

i think steryotype is not really good, because we all undress before enter the bathroom. how bout you ?
 
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Giantbab said:
can u please tell me what you think about it ?

i think steryotype is not really good

At this point, I tend to agree with you

Giantbab said:
because we all undress before enter the bathroom

But at this point, I have no idea what your talking about
 
I'm with Pengwuino on both accounts.
 
Gaintbab:

"Stereotype" is just a word.

Perhaps you could share (more of) your thoughts with us so that we may have a discussuon about them.
 
Giantbab said:
can u please tell me what you think about it ?

i think steryotype is not really good, because we all undress before enter the bathroom. how bout you ?
Actually, I don't.
If I'm sweaty one day and want a shower (located in the bathroom), I go fully clothed INTO the bathroom, and undress THERE.
And THEN I go into the shower (fully unclothed), leaving my sweaty clothes in the laundry bin, also located in the bathroom).

So I don't really understand your question.
 
What are you insinuating, that you are one of those "cleaner than thou"? Are you a prude? Uptight about cleanliness, are we? Someone showering with their swimsuit on is somehow different than you? If someone was swimming in a business suit, would you be offended? How about observant muslim women on the beach with virtually every part of their body covered? How do you feel about that?
 
EnumaElish said:
What are you insinuating, that you are one of those "cleaner than thou"? Are you a prude? Uptight about cleanliness, are we? Someone showering with their swimsuit on is somehow different than you? If someone was swimming in a business suit, would you be offended? How about observant muslim women on the beach with virtually every part of their body covered? How do you feel about that?
Yes, I must admit that I have some unwarranted prejudices against males taking a swim in their business suit.
I'll have to work on that..
 
arildno said:
Yes, I must admit that I have some unwarranted prejudices against males taking a swim in their business suit.
I'll have to work on that..

no no, its perfectly acceptable and more men should be ashamed to be in their bathing suits... especially if there fat hairy people on vacatation for 3 days at the beach.
 
EnumaElish said:
How about observant muslim women on the beach with virtually every part of their body covered? How do you feel about that?
This offends me greatly, women exist to please the eye, how dare they try to cover up.
 
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Smurf said:
This offends me greatly, women exist to please the eye, how dare they try to cover up.
Actually, this doesn't bother me a lot.
 
  • #11
Smurf said:
This offends me greatly, women exist to please the eye, how dare they try to cover up.
I feel that you are stereotyping women.
 
  • #12
EnumaElish said:
I feel that you are stereotyping women.

Stop stereotyping smurf
 
  • #13
arildno said:
Actually, this doesn't bother me a lot.
Are you stereotyping muslims? Are you saying that they are not good Muslims if they don't cover up their women?
 
  • #14
EnumaElish said:
Are you stereotyping muslims? Are you saying that they are not good Muslims if they don't cover up their women?

How would that be a stereotype? If their religion dictates women are to be covered up, then they would certainly be exhibiting traits of being a bad muslim. The word "stereotype" does not fit in this case. Maybe if covering up wasn't important in the Muslim religion and non-Muslims thought it was, you could call it a mis-conception... but i don't think "sterotype" fits here.
 
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So we should let them marry 4 women? If you're not letting them to marry 4 women, then aren't you condemning their souls to eternal damnation? Or even worse :smile: eternal peer ridicule for not being good Muslims?
 
  • #16
EnumaElish said:
So we should let them marry 4 women? If you're not letting them to marry 4 women, then aren't you condemning their souls to eternal damnation? Or even worse :smile: eternal peer ridicule for not being good Muslims?
Are you stereotyping after-life in hell?
What do you know about it?
 
  • #17
arildno said:
Are you stereotyping after-life in hell?
What do you know about it?
I must admit at times I am fearful for my soul, father -- ur, arildno, I meant.
 
  • #18
So you are fearing the unkown, then?
 
  • #19
Pengwuino said:
Stop stereotyping smurf
:smile: :smile: oh man, that made me laugh out loud.
 
  • #20
arildno said:
So you are fearing the unkown, then?
Don't we all? Of course there is a good deal of stereotyping the unknown, right there. Is unknown bad? Not necessarily, I guess. It's a little like swimming. If you don't know how to swim then water is the great unknown. But once you learn swimming it doesn't bother you at all. It could be rain or shine, dark or light, cold or warm, you could swim and water wouldn't have a spell on you.1

That explains the endless attempts to communicate with the netherworld, in my opinion.

But, do stereotypes have (or imply) a negative moral connotation? Are all stereotypes bad? Or are they not bad in themselves but somehow have undesirable social consequences? Or they are bad because they tend to exclude one group of people one way or the other?
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1As long as you stay away from the sharks. If I said sharks in the water are like lawyers on land, would I be sterotyping the sharks or the lawyers? :smile: Which is worse? :rolleyes:
 
  • #21
EnumaElish said:
So we should let them marry 4 women? If you're not letting them to marry 4 women, then aren't you condemning their souls to eternal damnation? Or even worse :smile: eternal peer ridicule for not being good Muslims?
Yes, No, No. While Islam accepts multiple marriages, it does not require it. The first question is a matter of opinion.
 

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