Calculating Force of Beam on Support at A

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The problem involves calculating the force exerted by a beam on a support point, specifically at point A, while considering the effects of a man standing on the beam. The context includes a uniform beam with a specified mass and length, supported by two sawhorses, and the forces acting on it due to the man's weight and the beam's own weight.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the initial misunderstanding regarding the force being calculated, with some attempting to set up equations based on torques and forces. There is confusion about whether to treat the beam as a point load or a uniform distributed load (UDL), and how to account for the beam's mass in relation to the pivot point.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and clarifying the setup. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of torque and the distribution of forces along the beam, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of considering the beam's uniformity and the distribution of its weight, as well as the implications of the pivot point chosen for torque calculations. There is mention of potential errors in previous calculations and the need to reassess assumptions made about the forces involved.

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A man of mass mm = 95 kg decides to paint his house. To do this, he builds a platform using a uniform beam with a mass of mb = 100 kg and a length of L = 7 meters. The beam is supported by two sawhorses, as shown in the diagram above.

If the man stands over the support at point B, calculate the force exerted by the beam on the support at A.

--at first, i misread the question and thought it's asking for the force exerted by A on the beam.
and I did the following:

F(A) + F(B) - F(b) - F(m) = 0

and have B as the pivot,

thus with the torque of A = -3 F(A)
and torque of beam (b) = .5 F(b)

, but now it's asking of the F exerted by beam on support at A? I'm confused here...its one whole beam, I'm assuming the force excerted by the beam will occur at the center of mass...help
 

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The force of the beam on A is the same as the force of A on the beam. (For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction)
 
yea, i initially thought it's asking for F(A), and i tried solving for it, didnt work out, unless i did something wrong in my original calculations...
 
I can't understand why you've been asked the same question twice, but disregrding that, there's a mistake in caculating the torque of the beam.
The beam is a UDL, not a point load acting at its mid-point.
You have to consider the torque from the beam as being up of two parts. one to the left of point B and one to the right.
 
There are two forces of the beam. Since the beam is uniform we can say that one meter has a mass of 100/7 kg. Since two meters are located on the other side of B from the other 5 meters of the beam, you must take that into account as well.

We'll designate the 5 meters to the left of B as b1. The two meters to the right of B shall be called b2.

The problem can be set up as total torque being zero (since it isn't moving). There for the expression for the torque caused by each point is: t(b1)-(t(A)+t(b2))=0. Remember that the torque resulting from the weight of a section of beam essentially acts midway between the end of the beam and the pivot point.
 

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