How Can I Succeed in My Undergraduate Calculus of Variations Class?

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The discussion revolves around the calculus of variations, specifically focusing on a problem involving the optimization of functionals. The original poster expresses difficulty with a homework assignment that requires finding the polar equation of a straight line by minimizing a given integral.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need for substitutions in the integral and explore the implications of the Euler-Lagrange equation. There are questions about how to approach the problem and what substitutions might be appropriate for the variable dθ.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and suggestions for substitutions. There is a recognition of the complexity of the problem, and while some guidance has been offered, there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

The original poster indicates a lack of confidence and understanding after three weeks of the course, suggesting that they may be struggling with foundational concepts in the calculus of variations.

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Hi all,

I seeking some advice about the calculus of variations.
I am an undergraduate and i am enrolled in a topic of the above mentioned. After successfully completing the requirments for the topic, 3 weeks after commencement i am feeling way out of my depth. I understand that the calculus of variations is dealing with the optimization of functionals but already the homework assignments have me stumped.
ie: with r as the independent variable, find the polar equation of a straight line by minimizing the integral between the points in a plane P & Q

int:sqrt(dr^2+r^2*dtheta^2)

Geez! where do start?. I have acquired some books on the topic by Bliss, Weinstock and Sagan which at this stage are not much help (no fault of the authors). Can anybody point me in the right direction or offer some advice as to how i should tackle this topic, I AM DETERMINED! to succeed.

Callisto
 
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this is a double intergal in which you need to make a worthy substitution in which will replace dtheta
 
Hint:
[tex]\sqrt{dr^2 + r^2 d\theta ^2} = d\theta \sqrt{\left (\frac{dr}{d\theta} \right)^2 + r^2}[/tex]
 
I see that we get

L = int:dtheta*sqrt((dr/dtheta)^2+r^2)

which is the length of the polar curve r=f(theta)

how do i decide what is a worthy substitution for dtheta?
 
Malleus Scientiarum gave you what you needed:

The integral that you want to minimize is [tex]\int \sqrt{\left(\frac{dr}{d\theta}\right)^2+ r^2}d\theta[/tex] and the problem is to find r as a function of θ to minimize that integral.

Surely after 3 weeks in the class you know the "Euler-Lagrange" equation?
 
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