Picard's Iteration: Solving dy/dx=y^2

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The discussion centers around solving the differential equation dy/dx = y^2 using Picard's iteration method, with the initial condition y(0) = 1. Participants explore the iterative approach to find a solution, while some express confusion about the problem and its requirements.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in progressing beyond a certain point in their application of Picard's iteration.
  • Another participant suggests using separation of variables as a simpler method to solve the equation.
  • A third participant insists that the problem must be solved using Picard's iteration, rejecting the separation of variables approach.
  • There is a question raised about the relevance of expressing the solution in terms of (1 + x) given the initial condition at x = 0.
  • A detailed explanation of Picard's iteration is provided, outlining the process of converting the initial value problem into an integral equation and iterating to find solutions.
  • Examples of iterations are given, demonstrating how to derive new solutions from previous ones, including the initial guess and subsequent approximations.

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Participants do not reach consensus on the method of solution, with some advocating for separation of variables while others maintain that Picard's iteration is the required approach. The discussion reflects differing opinions on the best method to tackle the problem.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the formulation of the problem, particularly the use of (1 + x) in the context of the initial condition. The discussion includes various assumptions about the iterative process and the nature of the solutions derived.

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This discussion may be of interest to students or individuals learning about differential equations, particularly those exploring methods of solving initial value problems through iterative techniques.

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Sorry for making another thread,but this problem is really penetrating for me!

dy/dx=y^2 with initial condition y(0)=1

I have reached upto
5/9 + 4/9((1+x) + (1+x)^4/4 + (1+x)^7/7 + ...)
And ahead of that i have no clue,!
 
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That one's actually pretty easy: just use separation of variables.
 
the question has to be done by Picard's iteration,not by separation of variables!
 
Is this really penetrating question!
 
WHY do you have it in terms of (1+ x) ? Your initial value is given at x= 0.

For those of you who don't know, Picard's iteration is this:

Given the intial value problem, y'= f(x,y), y(x0)= y0, imagine that we know y as a function of x and integrate both sides:
[tex]y(x)= y_0+ \int_{x_0}^x f(t,y(t))dt[/tex]
The initial value problem has a solution if and only if that integral equation has a solution. The integral equation can be thought of as a "fixed value" problem and, since Banach's fixed value theorem holds (see thread on "existence and uniqueness"), we can do it by iteration. Let Y be any function. The constant y(x)= y_0 works nicely. Plug that into the righthand side and integrate. Use the value of y(x) you get to repeat.

In this case, the initial value problem is y'= y2, y(0)= 1. That converts to the integral equation [itex]y(x)= 1+ \int_0^x (y(t))^2 dt[/itex].

Taking y(t)= 1 we get the new solution
[tex]y(x)= 1+ \int_0^x (1)^2 dt= 1+ x[/tex].
Taking y(t)= 1+ t, we get
[tex]y(x)= 1+ \int_0^x(1+ t)^2 dt= 1+ x+ x^2+ (1/3)x^3[/tex].
Continue until you think you see a pattern (or until you are exhausted).
 
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