How to Solve Differential Equation with Separate Variables?

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In summary: Note: The conversation is not a complete conversation and may not make sense out of context.In summary, the conversation involves solving a differential equation with initial conditions using separation of variables and completing the square to find the solution. The final answer is x=ln(2), but it is unclear how the book arrived at this solution. There is also a discussion about the use of minus sign on a chromebook and its potential impact on the equation. A broken link for homework problems is also mentioned.
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#24 in the spoiler

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$\dfrac{dy}{dx}=\dfrac{(2¬e^x) }{(3+2y)}\quad y(0)=0$
$\begin{array}{lll}
separate & (3+2y)dy=(2¬e^x)dx \\
integrate &3y + y^2=2x-e^x +c \\
complete the square &y^2+3y+(3/2)^2 =2x-e^x +(3/2)^2+c\\
and &(y+(3/2))^2\\
from &y(0)=0\quad C=1\\
and &y=-\dfrac{3}{2}+\sqrt{2x-e^x+\dfrac{13}{4}}
\end{array}$

ok probably but might have some typos or corrections,
maybe some helpfull suggestion from page in spoiler I am going to try to do all the problems
 
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karush said:
#24 in the spoiler

$\dfrac{dy}{dx}=\dfrac{(2¬e^x) }{(3+2y)}\quad y(0)=0$
\item\ha$\begin{array}{lll}
\ti{separate varables} & (3+2y)dy=(2¬e^x)dx \\
\ti{integrate} &3y + y^2=2x-e^x +c \\
\ti{complete the square}&y^2+3y+(3/2)^2 =2x-e^x +(3/2)^2+c\\
\ti{and} &(y+(3/2))^2\\
\ti{from} &y(0)=0\ C=1\\
\ti{and} &y=-\dfrac{3}{2}+\sqrt{2x-e^x+\dfrac{13}{4}}
\end{array}$

ok probably but might have some typos or corrections,
maybe some helpfull suggestion from page in spoiler I am going to try to do all the problems
Aside from the \(\displaystyle \neg\) symbol and your incomplete line on "\it{and}" you didn't finish the problem!

But the DEq solution looks good. (But is there any place that you don't have a solution? You never checked.)

-Dan
 
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topsquark said:
Aside from the \(\displaystyle \neg\) symbol and your incomplete line on "\it{and}" you didn't finish the problem!

But the DEq solution looks good. (But is there any place that you don't have a solution? You never checked.)

-Dan
$\dfrac{dy}{dx}=\dfrac{(2¬e^x) }{(3+2y)}\quad y(0)=0$
$\begin{array}{lll}
separate & (3+2y)dy=(2¬e^x)dx \\
integrate &3y + y^2=2x-e^x +c \\
complete \ the \ square &y^2+3y+(3/2)^2 =2x-e^x +(3/2)^2+c\\
reduce &(y+(3/2))^2\\
from \ y(0)=0 &c=1\\
hence &y=-\dfrac{3}{2}+\sqrt{2x-e^x+\dfrac{13}{4}}
\end{array}$

ok I got rid of the format codes from overleaf

the book answer for 2.2.24 was $x=\ln{2}$
but not sure how they got it...

what - are you referring to
 
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karush said:
$\dfrac{dy}{dx}=\dfrac{(2¬e^x) }{(3+2y)}\quad y(0)=0$
$\begin{array}{lll}
separate & (3+2y)dy=(2¬e^x)dx \\
integrate &3y + y^2=2x-e^x +c \\
complete \ the \ square &y^2+3y+(3/2)^2 =2x-e^x +(3/2)^2+c\\
reduce &(y+(3/2))^2\\
from \ y(0)=0 &c=1\\
hence &y=-\dfrac{3}{2}+\sqrt{2x-e^x+\dfrac{13}{4}}
\end{array}$

ok I got rid of the format codes from overleaf

the book answer for 2.2.24 was $x=\ln{2}$
but not sure how they got it...

what - are you referring to
\(\displaystyle (3+2y)dy=(2¬e^x)dx\)

Check the RHS.

C'mon. What is the condition for a function to be at a maximum? y'(x) = 0...

-Dan
 
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$2¬e^x=0$
$e^x=2\implies \ln(e^x)=\ln{2}\implies x=\ln{2}$
I was expecting something much more exotic:unsure:

Mahalo
 
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karush said:
$2¬e^x=0$
There it is again. Are you typing this in from a phone?

-Dan
 
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chromebook I just use the minus sign from the keyboard - in TEX $-$
strange :unsure:
 
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karush said:
chromebook I just use the minus sign from the keyboard - in TEX $-$
strange :unsure:
Hmmmm... My calculator has two "-" keys. One is subtraction and the other is "negation." I wonder if your chromebook isn't literally using negation?

-Dan
 
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1. What is the purpose of separating variables in scientific experiments?

Separating variables allows scientists to isolate and study the effects of one variable at a time, without interference from other variables. This helps to determine the specific impact of each variable on the outcome of the experiment.

2. How do you determine which variables to separate in an experiment?

Variables are separated based on their potential influence on the outcome of the experiment. Typically, the independent variable (the variable being manipulated) is separated from the dependent variable (the variable being measured) to determine their relationship.

3. Can separating variables improve the accuracy of experimental results?

Yes, separating variables can improve the accuracy of experimental results by reducing the potential for confounding variables to affect the outcome. By isolating one variable at a time, scientists can more accurately determine its impact on the experiment.

4. Are there any limitations to separating variables in experiments?

One limitation is that it may not always be possible to completely separate all variables, as some may be interconnected or influenced by each other. Additionally, separating variables may not account for all external factors that could impact the experiment.

5. How does separating variables contribute to the scientific method?

Separating variables is a crucial step in the scientific method as it allows for controlled experimentation and the testing of hypotheses. By isolating and manipulating variables, scientists can gather evidence to support or refute their theories and contribute to the advancement of scientific knowledge.

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