Gyroscope & Sound in deep space

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the functioning of gyroscopes in deep space and the propagation of sound in a vacuum. Participants explore the principles behind gyroscopes and the nature of sound waves, particularly in the context of space environments.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that gyroscopes function in deep space similarly to how they do on Earth, with considerations for construction in a vacuum.
  • Others argue that sound cannot travel in a vacuum, as it is a material wave requiring a medium, such as air or water, to propagate.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding claims of sound being detected from outer space, referencing educational content about sounds from solar flares.
  • One participant clarifies that while sound waves cannot propagate through a vacuum, electromagnetic (EM) waves can, and these include radio waves that can be detected by instruments on Earth.
  • Another participant questions whether lower frequency EM waves travel at the speed of light and suggests that if they do not, there would be a delay in receiving signals compared to visual observations.
  • A response indicates that all frequencies of EM radiation travel at the speed of light in a vacuum, though they interact differently with matter.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that gyroscopes work in space, but there is disagreement regarding the nature of sound in a vacuum and the interpretation of detected signals from space. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the confusion over sound detection in outer space.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific examples and experiments related to sound and EM waves, but there are unresolved assumptions about the nature of sound detection in space and the implications of EM wave propagation.

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Just a few questions I have been trying to find answers to.

A) Will a gyroscope function in deep space with the same properties
as on Earth ?

B) Does sound travel in deep space? if yes in what form of property
will it travel? i.e. such as light being a carrier or?
 
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A) Yes a gyroscope works in both freefall and in a vacuum (special attention is needed to build joints, etc. that work in a valuum). Gyroscopes and instruments build on the gyroscope principle, are used to stabilize telescopes and navigational devices in orbit.

B) No, sound is strictly a material wave. If two astro (or cosmo) nauts wished to speak, not on radio, they had to touch their helmets together, so the soulnd would travel through the contact. Sound ordinarily travels through the air, but it can also travel through water, metals, and so on. But not through a vacuum.

They used to do an experiment in beginning physics classes, where an alarm clock would be put under a bell jar and the jar evacuated. Then you could see the alarm go off, but you couldn't hear it.
 
Thank you for your reply, it will help tremendously.

About sound, that is what I thought but I am a
little confused. Didn't I just see on educational
channel that sounds were being picked up from
outer space? or the sounds the sun flares create?
 
I think I can answer this one. Sound waves cannot propagate through a vaccum, however electromagnetic (EM) waves can. The most familiar EM waves are those in the visible spectrum (light), however EM waves with a lower frequency (longer wavelength) such as radio waves which can't be seen by the naked eye are detectable with the right equipment (radio telescopes, radio antenae). Many objects in space give off radio waves and these can be detected on earth. Some radio astronomers even speak of "listening" to the heavens, however these are not the same as audible sound waves. Hope that clears it up.

Gabriel
 
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You have answered my question, I appreciate it.
Just one more question, You mentioned EM waves
in the lower frequency can. Are the lower frequency
waves able to travel at the speed of light? I assume
not but if this is true not being able to travel at the
speed of light then what we hear by using the right
equipment would lag behind the speed of light as an
example: Seeing the sun flare first than picking up the
sound of the flare later.
 
All frequencies of EM radiation can travel at the speed of light in a vacuum. They have different behaviors when interacting with matter. Radio waves (low frequency/long wavelength) go through your house as if it were not there. Light waves (middle frequency) are stopped and scattered by matter - that;s how we see. And x-rays or gamma rays (high frequency-short wavelength) cannot be stopped by anything and tear through matter like bullets.

But they all travel at the same speed when there is no matter in the way.
 

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