Uncovering the Mystery of Spinning CDs: Why the Edge Isn't Moving Faster

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The discussion revolves around the motion of a spinning CD, specifically addressing the perception that the outer edge moves faster than the center. Participants are exploring the mathematical and physical principles behind this phenomenon.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Some participants examine the relationship between distance traveled by points on the edge versus the center of the CD during rotation. Others question the mathematical reasoning behind the perceived differences in speed.

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Participants are actively engaging with the topic, providing insights into the tangential velocity and the geometry of the situation. There is a recognition of the varying distances traveled by points on the CD, but no consensus has been reached regarding the implications of this observation.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the definitions of speed and tangential velocity, as well as the assumptions regarding the uniformity of rotation and the geometry of the CD.

Donna
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Please help me answer my son's question:
It seems as though the outside edge of a spinning CD is moving faster than the middle of a CD. This can't be true, right? Why is it not true mathematically speaking?
Thank you.
Donna
 
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... well, for one, it is true. Think about it. put something on the edge and put something near the center and watch. Obviously, the outer edge is moving at a faster speed.
 
Consider a point on the outer circumfrance of the disk.

Draw a tangent to that point on the curve and draw a line @ 90 degrees to the tangent to the inner circumfrance of the disc.

This gives a line which is always the same, the 2 points are always in the same position relative to one another - this is true even as the disc is turning.

So as the disc rotates 90 degrees round the two points do too. However relative to each other they have not moved.

So the outer circum point has moved pi * d.1 * 90/360
d.1 = diameter to of entire disk

And the inner circum point has moved pi * d.2 * 90/360
d.2 = diameter of 'hole at centre of disk'

It is clear that d.1 > d.2 and so the point on the outer circumfrance will have traveled further in the same time.

As avg. speed = distance / time

And d.1 distance > d.2 distance, speed.1 will be greater than speed.2.

Thus the outside of the disc has a greater average speed.
 
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what did you mean by it has moved pi r1^2 *90/ 360 ?
 
i meant pi*d! my mind went absent...will amend post!
 
Suppose the CD makes one revolution. A point on the edge will have traveled a greater distance than a point near the center, since the point on the edge traverses a bigger circle.
 
Ofcourse the tangential velocity of a point increases as you move radially outwards on any spinning disc. [itex]V_T= wR[/itex] , where w is the angular velocity.

BJ
 

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