Simple question about velocity and acceleration

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The discussion revolves around concepts of velocity and acceleration, specifically in the context of a lab report. Participants are exploring the relationship between average and instantaneous velocity during a time interval with constant acceleration.

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  • Participants discuss the conditions under which average velocity equals instantaneous velocity, particularly focusing on constant acceleration. Questions are raised about the definitions of average speed and total distance covered, as well as the implications of graphing velocity over time.

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I'm writing a lab report and came to the following conclusion, I was hoping someone might be able to verify it for me.

The average velocity during the time interval [A,B] will be equal to the instantaneous velocity at the time (A+B)/2 if the acceleration during the time interval [A,B] is a constant.

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hk
 
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yeah, that's true
 
h_k331 said:
I'm writing a lab report and came to the following conclusion, I was hoping someone might be able to verify it for me.

The average velocity during the time interval [A,B] will be equal to the instantaneous velocity at the time (A+B)/2 if the acceleration during the time interval [A,B] is a constant.
The graph of velocity - time will have a slope a= v/t that is constant. In other words, it is a straight line with slope a.

The definition of average speed is: [tex]v_{avg} = \frac{distance_{total}}{time_{total}}[/tex]

What is the total distance covered (d = vt) in the time interval [A,B]? What is the total time?

[Hint: think of distance as the area under the graph]

AM
 
daveed said:
yeah, that's true

Thanks Dave.

hk
 
Andrew Mason said:
The graph of velocity - time will have a slope a= v/t that is constant. In other words, it is a straight line with slope a.

The definition of average speed is: [tex]v_{avg} = \frac{distance_{total}}{time_{total}}[/tex]

What is the total distance covered (d = vt) in the time interval [A,B]? What is the total time?

[Hint: think of distance as the area under the graph]

AM

The total distance covered would be the integral of velocity, and the total time would be d/v, right?

hk
 
h_k331 said:
The total distance covered would be the integral of velocity, and the total time would be d/v, right?
The time would be B-A.

[tex]t=\frac{distance_{total}}{v_{avg}}= B-A[/tex]

[tex]d = \int_A^B vdt = v_A(B-A) + \frac{1}{2}(v_B - v_A)(B-A)[/tex]

[tex]d/t = v_{avg} = d/(B-A) = v_A + \frac{1}{2}(v_B - v_A) = v_A + \frac{1}{2}(at)[/tex]
[tex]v_{avg} = v_A + \frac{1}{2}(a(B-A)) = v_A + a\frac{(B-A)}{2}[/tex]

which is the speed at time (B-A)/2.

AM
 
Thanks Andrew.

hk
 
d/v certainly has UNITS of time,
but you really NEED to specify what distance you mean
(midpoint? location at mid-time? total distance?)
and what velocity you mean
(slowest=v_A ? fastest=v_B ? average? v at mid-point?)

time-average of velocity = total displacement/total duration
 

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