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The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by a user transitioning from Windows to a Unix-based operating system, specifically regarding the installation and configuration of a Linux server with specific software requirements including Apache, PHP, MySQL, and Samba. The focus is on finding a suitable Linux distribution that meets these needs without excessive difficulty.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster expresses frustration with Fedora Core 4, particularly with Samba's read-only access and issues with file transfers, despite having installed the necessary software.
  • Some participants suggest Debian as a good choice for server setup, noting its ease of installation for Apache, PHP, and MySQL.
  • Others recommend Slackware, highlighting its straightforward setup for LAMP and Samba, but also mention concerns about its installation method and hardware detection.
  • A participant shares a specific configuration option for Samba to enable write access in smb.conf.
  • One user reports that copying smb.conf from a working server did not resolve their access issues, indicating that the problem may not lie within the configuration file.
  • Another participant notes that sharing a directory with 777 permissions behaves differently than the /tmp directory, raising questions about other permission management systems in Linux.
  • The original poster later mentions successfully setting up a LAMP server with Debian after receiving assistance from a knowledgeable friend, expressing a preference for Debian over Redhat.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the suitability of Debian for the user's needs, while there are differing opinions on the effectiveness of Slackware and Fedora Core 4. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific Samba configuration issues faced by the original poster.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of unresolved permission issues with Samba, as well as varying experiences with different Linux distributions. The discussion reflects a range of user expertise and preferences in Linux server management.

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Hi,
I've been using MS stuff since I bought my PC, Win 3.1->95->98->2000->XP. Recently I'm in a situation that requires me to use a Unix based OS. So I have to find the most simple one to get along with. These are the features that the OS must have:
1. APACHE SERVER
2. PHP 4.x ( 0<x<4)
3. MysQl 4.1
4. SAMBA (Our stations are all Billi enabled so we have to transfer files betweeen Win and Lin)
Those four nice guys have been killing me since I entered Linux world.
I installed Redhat Linux 7. It had Apache, Mysql 3... and PHP 3.3.
When I upgraded Mysql 3 to Mysql 4.1. After that the apache didn't work anymore.
Then I installed Redhat 9.0 but the same thing happened again.
Last week I boughtFedoracore 4. It has ready to use mysql 4.1 .
When I installed the four guys, Mysql and PHP 5 and Apache were working well. But Samba ... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
From our win stations we can easily enter to the Fedoracore server, but all it offers is Read access. I mean we can't copy files to it. It even doesn't let us create a single folder in it :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
I thought it is possible to solve it by configuring smb.conf. I was wrong :cry:
I don't know what is happening in the core of the Fedora Core. Because I runned a FTP server on it. Even in a FTP connection it didn't let me to copy a file into it :cry: :cry: :cry:
Are you thinking of a firewall? no, no. I didn't install any. Fedoracore asked me severly to install it. BUt I didn't. ( I believe sometimes a guard can be more dangerous than a thief. so I never use Firewalls or antivirueses. :biggrin: ) What's wrong?
Ok, I think a better question could be this one:
Do you know a good linux os with APACHE SERVER, PHP 4.x ( 0<x<4), MysQl 4.1 and Samba installed on it without that much trouble??
 
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Debian is a good choice. You shouldn't even need a GUI for this server.

Apache, php and mysql are a snap to install.

Here is a debian samba server howto:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers.php?action=viewarticle&artid=443

There is an option in smb.conf to enable writing:

[files]
writeable = yes
 
Debian, Slackware, Fedora Core 4. if you are building a server, I suggest Debian. much easier to administer.

get the debian net install image (80 MBs) and then read this:

http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/perfect_setup_debian_sarge/index.php
 
Slackware is my recommendation, it wasn't hard at all to set up LAMP and Samba on 10.1. Slack 10.2 will be out soon and will have MySQL 4.1.
 
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Nylex said:
Slackware is my recommendation, it wasn't hard at all to set up LAMP and Samba on 10.1. Slack 10.2 will be out soon and will have MySQL 4.1.


hard for some one who knows what they are doing and hard for some one who uses windows are completely different.

slack would be great if it would get over the whole sets based install.

floppy disks are not used at all for installing systems anymore!

oh, and some simple hardware detection would be nice too.
 
dduardo said:
[files]
writeable = yes


You know, we have a working linux server here with PHP, Apache, Mysql, and Samba working well on it. I copied it's smb.conf to the Fedora4 server and it has the same problems again. So I'm sure that the access problems are not coming out of smb.conf. Today I'm meeting somebody who knows penguins very well in order to solve the problems on our Fedora server. He's the last hope for me. If he can't work it around, I'm going to go buy a Debian distribution.
Thanks for all the links and suggestions.
 
ComputerGeek said:
slack would be great if it would get over the whole sets based install.

floppy disks are not used at all for installing systems anymore!

I didn't use floppies to install Slack, I just downloaded their ISOs and used those.
 
Ok, let me give it a go another time, because I found something new in the Samba.
When I share /tmp everything is ok. No "access is denied" message appears when I copy files into it.
I made another directory and renamed it to "/omid" and made it's chmod "777". World wide accessible, just like /tmp. But when I share it, I can even enter it. Is there any other permission manager other than chmod? The chmod of bothe /tmp and /omid is 777, so why they behave differently?
** I also tested 1777, because /tmp is sticky. It didn't work either.
 
Nylex said:
I didn't use floppies to install Slack, I just downloaded their ISOs and used those.

I said software sets. the install has been designed for floppy disks and they have never changed it. That is the problem.
 
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Yesterday I went to my expert friend.
He installed Fedora4, by my CD's. The differencs was the point that he didn't use graphical mode. He also compiled everything from Apache to php.
Now I have a server with Fedora4 on it, but I don't know how to install it again by myself. So debian is the only way to go for me.
Thanks a lot
 
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Now, we have a LAMP server runnig properly. Finally I used Debian. I like it a lot :D I think it's far more better than Redhat for somebody who doesn't know how to complie programs in linux.
Thank you very much
 

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