Why is ~(P v Q) equivalent to (~P & ~Q)?

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The discussion revolves around the logical equivalence of the expression ~(P v Q) and its transformation into (~P & ~Q) within the context of Discrete Mathematics. Participants are exploring properties of logical formulas, specifically focusing on De Morgan's Laws and the concept of dual formulas.

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  • Participants discuss the application of De Morgan's Law and the relationship between dual formulas and their negatives. Questions arise regarding the conditions under which these transformations hold true, including the necessity of having two statements involved in the logical operations.

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The conversation is ongoing, with some participants providing insights into the use of truth tables as a method for understanding the equivalence. There is an exchange of ideas, but no explicit consensus has been reached regarding the explanation of the equivalence of the expressions.

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Hi,

For one of the questions in my Discrete Mathematics course, I have to find what property of a formula makes its dual formula also its negative. With a dual formula, the logical operators of "^" and "v" are reversed, the former meaning "and" and the latter meaning "or". With its negative, all the letters in the equation are simply given a negative sign in front of them, turning positives into negatives and vice versa.

I hope someone can help!
Coldie
 
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I think you might want to look into De Morgan's Law.
 
Thanks, I can see now that the basic formula for DeMorgan is one for which the dual is also its negative. (-pvq) is equivalent to -p^-q. I'm still not sure why or how to explain it, though. Can you give me a hint? Does it simply have to be two statements on either side of an ^ or v?
 
Well, there are several ways of explaining it. Have you tried looking at a truth table as a guide?

[tex]\begin{array}{|c|c|c|c|c|c|c|}\hline P&Q&\neg P&\neg Q&(P \wedge Q)&\neg (P \wedge Q)&(\neg P \vee \neg Q) \\ \hline T&T&F&F&T&F&F \\ \hline T&F&F&T&F&T&T \\ \hline F&T&T&F&F&T&T \\ \hline F&F&T&T&F&T&T \\ \hline\end{array}[/tex]

(~P v ~Q) is true when ~P is true or* ~Q is true.
What's another way of saying that ~P is true? Answer: P is false.
What's another way of saying that ~Q is true? Answer: Q is false.
So in other words, (~P v ~Q) is true when P is false or Q is false.

~(P & Q) is true when it is not the case that P and Q are both true.
Well, if they aren't both true, then at least one of them must be false.
So in other words, ~(P & Q) is true when P is false or Q is false.

Make sense? Can you explain why ~(P v Q) is equivalent to (~P & ~Q)?

*all ors are inclusive (x or y or both)
 
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