Physics-Conservation of Momentum

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to the conservation of momentum during a tennis serve, specifically addressing the interaction between the racket and the ball. Participants are exploring why the racket's speed does not change significantly despite the momentum exchange with the ball.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the relationship between the forces exerted by the racket and the ball, questioning the definition of momentum and its dependence on mass and velocity. Some are exploring analogies, such as throwing a ball versus pushing another person on ice, to clarify their reasoning.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering various interpretations and attempting to clarify misconceptions about momentum conservation. Some guidance has been provided regarding the definitions and implications of momentum, but no consensus has been reached on the correct explanation.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of momentum conservation in elastic collisions and are considering the effects of mass differences between the racket and the ball. There is an ongoing examination of assumptions regarding the forces involved and the resulting changes in velocity.

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Hey guys i can't seem to explain this question for my homework.

"During a tennis serve, momentum gained by the ball is lost by a racket. If the momentum is conserved, why doesn't the racket's speed change much?

Im not sure, but i think it might be because the ball is at rest and there is no force exerted on the racket, so the speed of the racket doesn't change.
 
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Since the racket definitely exerts a force on the ball (right?), the ball must exert an equal and opposite force on the racket (Newton's 3rd law). So that's not the answer!

What's the definition of momentum?
 
Imagine yourself on an ice rink. What happens when you throw a ball vs. what happens when you "throw" (or more realistically, push) another person on the ice rink?.
 
hey guys i came up with a different solution,
Is it correct that the velocity of the racket doesn't change because of perfect elastic collisions where the objects involes some change in shape and some energy is lost to heat, meanwhile the momentum and Kineticc Energy are conserved.
 
But that has nothing to do with conservation of momentum. Instead, realize that conservation of momentum says that whatever momentum the ball gains, the racket loses.

Again, what's the definition of momentum? What does it depend on? (If you had to calculate the momentum of the ball, what would you need to know?)
 
the formula of momentum is p=mv so other then velocity,mass is needed, so is it because the mass of the 2 objects are both equal for the velocity of the racket to stay the same
 
If the masses were the same, then both would have the same change in velocity. But the masses are not the same! One is a tennis ball, the other a racket. Hint: Which has the greater mass?

Also: No one said the racket's speed remains the same, only that it doesn't change as much as the ball's speed does.
 
So since the racket has a greater masss then the ball, therefore the momentum of the racket is greater then the ball, so if the momentum is greater the racket will still move in the same direction and the velocity will not change much.
 
Is that the right solution
 
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So since the racket has a greater masss then the ball, therefore the momentum of the racket is greater then the ball, so if the momentum is greater the racket will still move in the same direction and the velocity will not change much.

Is this the right solution
 
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No, not right. Once again, conservation of momentum says: The change in momentum of ball and racket are equal (but opposite). It says that right in the problem statement.
 

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