What is the time of flight for a projectile launched from a cliff?

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The discussion revolves around a projectile motion problem involving a stone projected from a cliff at a specific speed and angle. Participants are trying to determine the time of flight until the stone reaches a certain angle of depression.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use kinematic equations to find the time of flight but questions the validity of their assumptions regarding the angle of depression. Other participants raise concerns about the assumptions made and suggest clarifying the relationship between the vertical and horizontal components of motion.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying assumptions and exploring the relationships between the components of motion. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of angles and the use of trigonometric relationships, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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There appears to be confusion regarding the definitions of angles and the directions chosen for the components of motion, which may impact the calculations. The original poster's assumption about the stone's position when the angle of depression is 45 degrees is also under scrutiny.

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A stone is projected from a point O on a cliff with a speed of of 20ms^-1 at an angle of elevation of 30. T seconds later the angle of depression of the stone from O is 45. Find the value of T.

I assumed that when the stone is at depression of 45 degree to O, it has reached the horizontal plane again, hence displacement is 0. so I used s = ut + 0.5at^2.
s=0
a=-9.8
u=20sin30
therefore t= 2.04, which is apparabtly wrong.

Please help.
 
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You've assumption of the angle is wrong.
[tex]\tan \theta = \frac{v_y}{v_x}[/tex]
 
Päällikkö said:
You've assumption of the angle is wrong.
[tex]\tan \theta = \frac{v_y}{v_x}[/tex]

Could you expand on that please?
 
But how can I show that angle of depression is 45 degrees on that diagram?
 
You'll want theta = -45o (depending on the positive/negative directions you've chosen).

On the other hand, as tan -45o = -1, vx = -vy (at the desired instant).
 
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Sorry I am confused! Could you go through the question please?
 
Positive/negative directions:
+y
|
|
----+x

[tex]\tan \theta = \frac{v_y}{v_x}[/tex]
We also know that
[tex]v = v_0+at[/tex]


[tex]\tan \theta = \frac{v_{0y}-gt}{v_{0x}}[/tex]
 

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