Meet the closest unmaker dont ponder on it

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The discussion centers around the potential collision between the Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies, with some confusion regarding the mention of Alpha Centauri. Participants explore the implications of such a collision, the nature of galactic interactions, and the long-term future of humanity in relation to these cosmic events.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions a National Geographic article discussing a collision between the Milky Way and Alpha Centauri, prompting confusion about the relationship between Alpha Centauri and the Milky Way.
  • Another participant corrects the initial claim, stating that Alpha Centauri is part of the Milky Way, as it is the closest star system to our solar system.
  • Some participants suggest that the more relevant collision is between the Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies, which is expected to occur in several billion years.
  • Concerns are raised about the rarity of actual star collisions during such galactic events, with one participant noting that most stars will likely not collide due to the vast distances between them.
  • There is a discussion about the potential consequences of the collision, including significant gravitational disruptions and bursts of new star formation resulting from the interaction of giant molecular gas clouds.
  • One participant expresses a more philosophical view, suggesting that humans should not worry about these events, as they are far in the future and humanity may evolve or become extinct long before then.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the specifics of the collision, particularly regarding the involvement of Alpha Centauri and the nature of the interaction between the Milky Way and Andromeda. There is no consensus on the implications of these events or the future of humanity in relation to them.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the uncertainty surrounding the details of galactic collisions, including the potential for grazing impacts versus direct collisions, and the long timescales involved. The discussion reflects a mix of scientific speculation and philosophical musings.

Phobo
Meet the closest unmaker... don't ponder on it!

Incase you are unenlightened, the Nov 03 National Geographic has a lovely little description of the impending collision between the milky way and alpha centauri... in 'several billion years' ! No joke.

What da *&&%$# do we do?
 
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collision between the milky way and alpha centauri
You seem to have garbled something. Alpha centauri is the closest star to our solar system - therefore it is part of the milky way (our galaxy).
 
Perhaps "Milky Way an d Andromeda"? I heard they had a date sometime soon.

That's why I alwats say; "live evry eon like it's your last"!
 
Collisions?

So many stars, so few collisions. Of all the billions of stars in the Milky Way and M31 (the Andromeda galaxy), when (if?) the two collide, very few of the stars in each will. A far greater threat to our great(many thousands, or millions?)-grandchildren will be the supernovae and GRBs that will result from the bursts of star-formation that will occur in the remnants of the colliding giant molecular gas clouds. But well before then we'll have had to either harness other sources of energy (than fossil fuels) or dramatically cut back on the per-capita consumption (or reduce the population). So, lots of time still to drink many a glass of fine French champagne!
 


Originally posted by Phobo
Incase you are unenlightened, the Nov 03 National Geographic has a lovely little description of the impending collision between the milky way and alpha centauri... in 'several billion years' ! No joke.

What da *&&%$# do we do?

First, we don't pick a username that annoys a mentor.

Second, don't panic. Yes, the Andromeda and Milky Way galaxies may "collide" in a few billion years. But since both galaxies are made of empty space, they may just pass through each other with very few direct impacts. The gravitational disruption will be significant however. The shapes of the galaxies will be totally changed (no longer symmetrical spiral galaxies). The "impact" will also cause a burst in new star formations (as stagnant nebulae are nudged).

It's possible that the two galaxies may not have a direct collision...possibly a grazing impact...but gravity will still dramatically alter their shapes.

Either way, don't plan on it ruining your day or any other person...H. sapiens will be long gone by then (hopefully evolved into something else rather than going extinct). Closer to hope, that same time frame will be the time when our Sun burns up the Earth.
 


Originally posted by Phobos
First, we don't pick a username that annoys a mentor.

Second, don't panic. Yes, the Andromeda and Milky Way galaxies may "collide" in a few billion years. But since both galaxies are made of empty space, they may just pass through each other with very few direct impacts. The gravitational disruption will be significant however. The shapes of the galaxies will be totally changed (no longer symmetrical spiral galaxies). The "impact" will also cause a burst in new star formations (as stagnant nebulae are nudged).

It's possible that the two galaxies may not have a direct collision...possibly a grazing impact...but gravity will still dramatically alter their shapes.<snip>
like this:

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/releases/2002/09/

Or many others like:

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/releases/2003/14/image/a

Labguy
 

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