Classical Dynamics prob, please.

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The problem involves analyzing the height of a hill defined by a multivariable function, specifically focusing on finding the maximum height and the steepness of the hill at a given point. The subject area pertains to classical dynamics and calculus, particularly in the context of partial derivatives and gradients.

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  • The original poster attempts to find the maximum height by calculating partial derivatives and evaluating them at specific points. They express confusion about determining the angle between a normal vector to the hill and the z-axis. Other participants discuss the concept of a gradient vector and its relationship to the surface, questioning the origin of specific values used in calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing insights into the gradient and its components. There is a recognition of the need for clarification on certain points, particularly regarding the evaluation of the function at specific coordinates and the interpretation of the gradient.

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Participants are navigating through the implications of the problem's setup, including the interpretation of the gradient and the necessary calculations to find the angle with the z-axis. There is an acknowledgment of the original poster's deadline for homework submission, which may influence the urgency of the discussion.

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The question is as follows: The height of a hill (meters) is given by [z=(2xy)-(3x^2)-(4y^2)-(18x)+(28y)+12], where x is the distance east, y is the distance north of the origin. a). where is the top of the hil (x,y,z) and how high is it (z=?)? b). How steep is the hill at x=y=1, that is, what is the angle between a vector perpendicular to the hill and the z axis? c). In which compass direction is the slope at x=y=1 the steepest?

okay, i know part a)., which is to get the derivative of dz/dx and dz/dy to get your x and y maximum values, then plug them back into the equation for z, giving you the location and the height of the hill at the steepest point.

The part i am having trouble with is b). how am i supposed to draw a vector that is perpendicular to the hill and calculate hte angle it makes with the z-axis? i thought of plugging in the x and y values of x=y=1 into the z equation, and this would give you z at that point, then create a vector normal to that point, but how do u find the angle (theta) made with the z-axis.

I also figured out part c). which is in a south east direction.

Please help, homework is due soon, thank you.
 
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Think of f(x,y,z)= constant (here that would be (2xy)-(3x^2)-(4y^2)-(18x)+(28y)+12- z= 0) as "level surface" for f. Then the gradient of f (the vector whose components are fx, fy, fz) is perpendicular to the surface (evaluated at (1,1,37)). You can find the angle it makes with the z-axis by taking its dot product with (0, 0, 1).
 
thank u :smile:
 
this is a major bump, but it is similar to a problem i have. would someone else explain this?

where did (1,1,37) come from?

i think it is easy, but i am just drawing a huge blank...

and then the gradient of f is (fx, fy, fz) where fx is your dz/dx you needed to find to solve part a? and fy is your dz/dy, then fz would be 1? or am i totally wrong.

thanks for any help! I am new to this site, it is a great help
 
SEMonChron said:
this is a major bump, but it is similar to a problem i have. would someone else explain this?

where did (1,1,37) come from?

i think it is easy, but i am just drawing a huge blank...

and then the gradient of f is (fx, fy, fz) where fx is your dz/dx you needed to find to solve part a? and fy is your dz/dy, then fz would be 1? or am i totally wrong.

thanks for any help! I am new to this site, it is a great help

In this case, you don't have to find fz. Z itself is f(x,y). The value for z comes from plugging in the values for x and y into the equation which gives you z.
 

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