P-nitrophenol and 2,5-dinitrophenol solubility in bicarbonate solution

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The discussion centers on the solubility of p-nitrophenol and 2,5-dinitrophenol in sodium bicarbonate solution, exploring the implications of their pKa values in relation to the bicarbonate's pKa. Participants are examining theoretical aspects of acid-base chemistry and solubility principles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the pKa values of p-nitrophenol (7.15) and 2,5-dinitrophenol (5.15), questioning their solubility in bicarbonate solution (pKa 6.34).
  • Another participant suggests that both substances will dissolve if converted to ions and recommends using the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation to determine the ionic form concentration.
  • A different viewpoint discusses the implications of pKa and pH, stating that at equal concentrations of p-nitrophenol and its conjugate base, the solution will be basic, and mentions the common ion effect in relation to solubility.
  • A subsequent post questions the comparison of pKa values to determine which compound is the weaker acid and thus the stronger base, implying that p-nitrophenol's higher pKa may indicate it is less acidic than bicarbonate.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of pKa values for solubility, with no consensus reached on the solubility of the compounds in bicarbonate solution.

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The discussion involves assumptions about the behavior of acids and bases in solution, the role of pKa in determining solubility, and the potential influence of the common ion effect, which remain unresolved.

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The pKa of p-nitrophenol is 7.15. Would you expect it to dissolve in sodium bicarbonate solution? The pKa of 2,5-dinitrophenol is 5.15. Will it dissolve in bicarbonate solution. Pka of bicarbonate solution is 6.34. Any help will be greatly appreciated, thanks.
 
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accarter15 said:
Pka of bicarbonate solution is 6.34.

That was pH I suppose?

Both substances will dissolve if converted to ions. Use Henderson-Hasselbalch equation to calculate how much of the substance will be in the ionic form.
 
at equal concentrations of p-nitrophenol and its conjugate base, the solution will be basic, since pKa=pH at equal concentrations. This means that the molecule has basic characteristics (the alcohol motif), assuming that p-nitrophenol is insoluble in pure water, than in an acidic solution of bicarbonate...think about the common ion effect. You should apply the same reasoning with your other compound.
 
ok, I went off on a tangent there, you simply need to compare the pKas, in a mixture of bicarbonate and either of the two compounds, which would be the weaker acid, thus the stronger base?

For instance, p-nitrophenol has a higher pKa, thus would it be more acidic than bicarbonate? If not, than bicarbonate would dissolve the compound in an aqueous solution.
 

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