Help with algebra in a physics problem

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The discussion revolves around an algebraic manipulation problem within a physics context, specifically involving forces and motion. Participants are focused on how to isolate the variable 'a' in an equation derived from a physics problem involving masses, friction, and angles.

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  • The original poster attempts to solve for 'a' in a complex equation and expresses frustration with the algebraic manipulation required. Some participants suggest multiplying both sides by cos(θ) to eliminate fractions and rearranging terms to isolate 'a'. Others share their progress in distributing terms and moving components around in the equation.

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Participants are actively engaging in the algebraic process, with some providing guidance on how to approach the problem. There is a collaborative atmosphere as individuals share their steps and progress, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a final solution yet.

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There are indications of potential confusion regarding notation and the setup of the equation, as one participant corrects a typographical error in the expression. The original poster has expressed a need for assistance specifically with the algebra, rather than the underlying physics concepts.

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I don't need help with the physics, it is simply the algebra that I can't figure out in this problem. Here am where I am at:
[tex]-m_{1} a + \mu ( m_{1} g \cos \theta ) + m_{1} g \sin \theta = \frac{\m_{2} a +m_{2} g \cos \theta }{ \cos \theta }[/tex]
I need to solve for a. How the heck do I do this? How can I factor the a's into just one a?
 
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JoshHolloway said:
I don't need help with the physics, it is simply the algebra that I can't figure out in this problem. Here am where I am at:
[tex]-m_{1} a + \mu ( m_{1} g \cos \theta ) + m_{1} g \sin \theta = \frac{\m_{2} a + m_{2} g \cos \theta }{ \cos \theta }[/tex]
I need to solve for a. How the heck do I do this? How can I factor the a's into just one a?
My suggestion is to multiply both sides by cosθ, thereby eliminating any fractions. From there, rearrange terms so that any term with an a in it is on one side, and everything else is on another. Now you can factor an a out of this and solve.

Alex
 
in the fraction it is supposed to say m2, not just a subscript two. I don't know what I did wrong.
And I did that. Here I will show you how far I have gotten past that. Just a few minutes...
 
[tex]\cos \theta [-m_{1} a + \mu ( m_{1} g \cos \theta ) + m_{1} g \sin \theta] = m_{2} a +m_{2} g \cos \theta[/tex]
 
JoshHolloway said:
[tex]\cos \theta [-m_{1} a + \mu ( m_{1} g \cos \theta ) + m_{1} g \sin \theta] = m_{2} a +m_{2} g \cos \theta[/tex]
That's step 1. Now distribute the cosine and put all of the terms containing an a in them on one side. Tell me what you get.

Alex
 
alright just one moment...
 
[tex]-m_{1} a \cos \theta + \mu ( m_{1} g \cos ^2 \theta ) + m_{1} g \sin \theta \cos \theta = m_{2} a +m_{2} g \cos \theta[/tex]
 
I distributed, now one moment and I will attempt to do the second step you said. By the way this is REALLY helping.
 
[tex]\mu ( m_{1} g \cos ^2 \theta ) + m_{1} g \sin \theta \cos \theta - m_{2} g \cos \theta = m_{1} a \cos \theta + m_{2} a[/tex]
 
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[tex]\mu ( m_{1} g \cos ^2 \theta ) + m_{1} g \sin \theta \cos \theta - m_{2} g \cos \theta = a (m_{1} \cos \theta + m_{2})[/tex]
 
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You are a godsend! Thanks a lot friend.
 
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JoshHolloway said:
You are a godsend! Thanks a lot friend.
Glad I could help :smile:
 

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