Understanding Solid Angle and Proving its Equation

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The discussion centers around the concept of solid angles, their mathematical representation, and the relationship between solid angles and areas in spherical coordinates. Participants explore the definitions, integrals, and proofs related to solid angles, as well as their applications.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Homework-related, Mathematical reasoning

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  • One participant compares solid angles to the relationship between curves and circles, suggesting a similarity in their definitions.
  • Another participant provides a formula for the differential solid angle, dΩ, and mentions the total solid angle for a sphere as 4π.
  • A participant discusses the area of a circle in polar coordinates and draws an analogy to finding the area of a sphere in spherical coordinates.
  • There is a correction made regarding the expression for area, clarifying that dA = r² dΩ, rather than A = r² dΩ.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the clarity of their previous statements and seek further understanding of the relationships involved.

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Participants generally agree on the mathematical relationships involving solid angles and areas, but there are varying interpretations and clarifications regarding the expressions used. The discussion remains somewhat unresolved as participants refine their understanding and correct earlier statements.

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Some assumptions about the limits of integration in spherical coordinates and the definitions of solid angles may not be fully articulated, leading to potential ambiguities in the discussion.

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So what i know that a solid angle is to sphere as the curve is to a circle...

curve= rΘ, and (differential solid angle) dΩ=2ΠsinΘdΘ

I need to prove it, and I'm a bit rusty and i donno where to start, i wonder if there's any usefull links or tips...

Any more info about the use of a solid angle??

Thx..
 
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Astronuc what would my life be without u?? :D

Thx...
 
Well, i was thinking that doesn't the equation i wrote in the 1st post seem close to the parameter of a circle?And if that circle small, that its parameter would be almost equal to its area?
 
Area of a circle in polar coordinates is just the integral of "r d[itex]\theta[/itex] dr", with r limits of 0,r, and [itex]\theta[/itex] from 0, 2[itex]\pi[/itex] so one should end up with [itex]\pi[/itex]r2.

Similarly in spherical coordinates the integrand is r2 sin [itex]\phi[/itex] d[itex]\phi[/itex] d[itex]\theta[/itex], and to find the area, one simply integrates over the two angle with r fixed, and the area should be 4[itex]\pi[/itex]r2

[itex]\phi[/itex] limits -[itex]\pi[/itex], [itex]\pi[/itex] and [itex]\theta[/itex] limits 0, 2[itex]\pi[/itex]

So in some sense, finding the circumference of a circle, is analogous to finding the area of a sphere.
 
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I do understand that, maybe i wasn't clear enough...I just thought it was quite similar to the relation i wanted to get to...
 
I just notice an error in one of the expression I posted.

A = r2 d[itex]\Omega[/itex] should read

dA = r2 d[itex]\Omega[/itex]

and

Asphere = 4[itex]\pi[/itex]r2
 
Alright that's what i proved, but after i proved it, i just thought something naive, so don't bother:wink:

Thx Astronuc..
 

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