Is Our Future Predetermined or Do We Shape It Ourselves?

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The discussion revolves around the philosophical question of whether the future is predetermined or shaped by individual actions. Participants explore concepts related to fate, free will, and the implications of predictive technologies, drawing inspiration from science fiction narratives.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether our futures are predetermined or if we shape them ourselves, referencing a sci-fi series that features a predictive machine.
  • Another participant suggests a connection to the idea of "future echos," proposing that déjà vu could be the universe's way of calculating future events based on past trends.
  • A different viewpoint introduces the notion that personal experiences, particularly related to sexuality, could influence future outcomes in significant ways.
  • One participant expresses a subjective belief that both determinism and free will coexist, suggesting that while fate is predetermined, individuals still play a role in shaping their destinies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on the nature of fate and free will, with no consensus reached on the question of whether the future is predetermined or shaped by individual choices.

Contextual Notes

Some ideas presented rely on speculative interpretations of consciousness and time, and the discussion includes references to fictional narratives that may not align with empirical understanding.

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This is a big one. Who believes that our future's are not yet written and who believes that our fates are already written in time waiting to be told. I thought about this when I was watching an episode of the sci-fi series Red Dwarf, where they discuss the future and a there is a machine that can predict it with extraordinary accuracy. I mean who knows if we are going to be hit by a bus tomorrow, is it written our do we make our own fate? What are your thoughts and feelings towards the future and how it's written??
 
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Yeah something like that. Sort of like future echos. Sorry to have wasted time. lol get it!?
 
i'd thought about that ages ago as well...

...waves of thought reverberating thorugh the echoverse

with deja vu being the universe calculating a future event you will have based on extrapolating trends at the time of your conception and providing a snapshot in your consciousness which is probabaly outside of any 4d temporal reference...

like blipverts in commercial advertising. Remember the porn sequence inserted in fight club...
 
our own sexual-itty has smthin to do with our future
input of direct sexual synapses at right times evaluaete into enormous portions of energy as pathetic as its hard to imagine a world with NO SEX
 
Badass said:
This is a big one. Who believes that our future's are not yet written and who believes that our fates are already written in time waiting to be told. I thought about this when I was watching an episode of the sci-fi series Red Dwarf, where they discuss the future and a there is a machine that can predict it with extraordinary accuracy. I mean who knows if we are going to be hit by a bus tomorrow, is it written our do we make our own fate? What are your thoughts and feelings towards the future and how it's written??
My subjective belief : Yes to both. It is written, and at the same time we do make our own fate (but the fate that we make was pre-determined) :smile:

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