Solve Motion and Friction Problem: Estimate Car Speed When Brakes Applied

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The problem involves estimating the speed of a car at the moment the brakes were applied, based on the length of skid marks and the coefficient of friction. The context is a traffic accident investigation, focusing on motion and friction principles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the car after braking, particularly the role of kinetic friction and the normal force. Some explore the relationship between acceleration, friction, and initial velocity using kinematic equations.

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Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the problem by identifying relevant forces and equations. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of missing information, such as the car's mass, and how it affects the calculations.

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The original poster notes confusion due to multiple unknown variables and the lack of mass information, which is central to applying the equations of motion effectively.

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i've spent an hour reading this problem over and over again, trying to plug into the formulas but only came out with 2 or more unknown variables. I've not a clue to where to start, please help me.

Here goes..
during the investigation of a traffic accident, police find skid marks 90m long. They determine the coefficient of friction between the car's tires and the roadway to be .5 for the prevailing condition. Estimate the speed of the car when the brakes were applied.

choices are:
a. 9.49 m/s
b. 21
c. 29.7
d. 42

Here's how far i got:frown: .
givens:
d=90m
coeff=.5
vf=0
vi?
 
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The only force on the car that you are supposed to consider after the brakes have been applied is kinetic friction between the tires and the road. Set ma = -μN, where m is the mass of the car, a is the acceleration, μ is the coefficient of friction, and N is the normal reaction force of the ground to the car (equal in magnitude to the weight of the car). With a known constant acceleration and stopping distance, there is a kinematic formula you can use to find the initial velocity.
 
Here's a clue.

Are you stuck because they didn't give you the mass?

Look: the force exerted on the car by friction is μ times the normal force. In this case, on level ground the normal force is equal to mg. Now, you want to know the rate of deceleration (-acceleration), right? Well, assuming the only force affecting the car's speed was the braking force at the tires, F=ma so:
a = F/m
but here,
F = μmg

OK?
 
Good timing, James. :smile:
 
Heh. We should start keeping score on these. I think we're tied now.
 
C! i believe i got it. thanks!
 

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