Solving a System of Equations with Matrices

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The discussion revolves around solving a system of equations using matrices, specifically focusing on finding the general solution and understanding matrix forms. The original poster is encountering difficulties with the initial steps of the problem and the implications of the matrix's structure.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster considers starting with row echelon form and expresses concern about the complexity introduced by fractions. Other participants suggest alternative operations on the matrix. There is also a question about identifying elementary matrices and clarifying the requirements for echelon forms.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering different approaches and checking each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been provided regarding the nature of the matrix and its implications for solutions, but there is no explicit consensus on the original poster's approach or the subsequent questions raised.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a matrix being singular, which raises questions about the existence of solutions. Additionally, the original poster seeks clarification on the definition of elementary matrices and the requirements for echelon forms in their specific context.

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Hi, I've just been given a set of revision questions for matrices and I'm having problems with the following question:

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My task is to find the general solution of this system (if there is any). Do I start off by reducing it to row echelon form and then reduced row echelon?

My first step would be to divide the first line by 3 to get a 1 on the far left...but that would mean I would have fractions as well which makes everything so 'messy.' Is that the correct first step to this question? :confused:

Help and advice appreciated! Thank you!
 
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I would start by multiplying the 2nd line by -1 and adding it to the 4th line.
 
Ok I've given it a go and I got the answer:

1 0 1 2 | 1
0 1 -1 -2 | 0
0 0 0 0 | 0
0 0 0 0 | 0

So that gives me no solution?...:confused: Can someone check if that's right. Thank you! :biggrin:
 
Looks correct to me. The matrix is singular, so there isn't a solution.
 
Oh thanks! :biggrin: I know how to attempt other similar questions in my notes now.

I've also got two more questions to ask, if that's ok :rolleyes:

1) How do you determine a matrix is an elementary matrix? For example if you were given:

1 0 0
0 1 9
0 0 1

Is this an elementary matrix? :confused:

2) I don't understand the wording of the following question:

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Does it mean its already in the echelon form so I don't have to do anything apart from just solving it for the variables? Or do I still have to put it into reduced echelon form?

Sorry for being such a pain and thank you for taking time to read my post :smile:
 
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