Egyptian Pyramids

extraordinarygirl

Hey, I'm working on the theories for how the pyramids in Egypt were built and I just wanted to know if you guys had any other points to add to what I have written.

The first theory is that Aliens built them because they were so precise. The raitio of height to length equaled pi. They pointed to different constalations and to this day, no one has been able to make an exact replica of the pyramids. But, there are no traces of aliens existing, landing on earth etc.

The Second theory is that the Egyptian slaves built them. But there are some flaws in this theory because, how were all the workers fed for the 4000 years it took to build them. How did they transport that many stone blocks to the top of the pyramid (which was 4000 ft high). If they had ramps, the slight angle of the ramp would have made the ramp bigger than the pyramids. There was no rope to pulll the blocks up the ramp. As well, trees were scarce in Egypt and were needed for shade and food. Although, they could have imported wood from Alexandria, and floated it down the Nile.

The third theory is that they composed a formula of natron and silt in the Nile that would dry as rocks.( Has been tested by scientists.)Therefore they could pour the molds, then put them into the pyramid which would mean they wouldn't have to feed as many workers and wouldn't need the large ramps. But, how can we be sure they had the knowledge to think of this?


If you have any imput what so ever on any of these theories I would greatly appreciate it.

zoobyshoe

We know that the Jews were employed as brickmakers in Egypt before Moses lead them away. Since brick was a common structural material, it follows that experiementing with other formulas would be natural for them. Natron and silt wouldn't require any particular genius to discover as a cement; I believe they had lots of both.

I saw a thing on TV a few years ago in which it was claimed that when moving a pyramid block around to measure and weight it, it broke in half and they found hairs inside, sticking out of the rock. This could only happen if the blocks were cast. I have no idea if that story is true, though. Casting the pyramid blocks in place would have made the construction easier since you can transport your materials in much smaller, easier to handle quantities.

In any event, I should think it would be a fairly easy matter to settle from mineral analysis.

Evo

Here is where knowing some history can clear things up. Nothing mysterious, no aliens. The city that housed the builders has been excavated. Information on the workers has been found along with their gravesites, etc...

The pyramids were a slow, natural progression in tomb building. Ancient tombs in Egypt started out as pits dug in the sand, then covered with rocks. Then someone added a stone slab on top of the rocks, as time went by, this became larger and more elaborate, they were called mastabas. The tops were flat. They started having layers (like a wedding cake) and this lead to the "step pyramid", the first attempt at a true pyramid was a failure, it is the "bent pyramid", they finally worked the design out and ended up with the final pyramids.

Here are examples of the progression of Egyptian tombs.

http://www.westga.edu/~rtekippe/slid...ba-pyramid.jpg

Smurf

another one of these types...

Intuitive

Here is some evidence of Elephants in Egypt 2000 to 8000 BC, Elephants were very plentyful at the time:

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/egam/ho_59.101.1.htm

It's to bad the Egyptions didn't leave pictures of how they built the pyramids, seems like it was unimportant or maybe they wanted it to be a mystery.

I wouldn't rule out these big mammals for moving stone since one Mature bull Elephant can out pull over a 100 men in a tug of war and can out pull a team of horses.

James R

The ratio isn't really that precise, and could be a coincidence. I don't know what you mean about pointing to different constellations. Nobody has tried making an exact replica; it's not that it would be impossible, but it would take a lot of work and materials, and for what?

Most people think it wasn't slaves who built the pyramids these days, but ordinary Egyptians. Egypt is a fertile country, fed by the flooding of the Nile delta every year, so feeding people wasn't a problem.

Some people have postulated ramps which wrapped around the outside of the pyramid, rather than just going up to it in a straight line. That would require much less sand.

There is evidence that stone was quarried from far away and floated down the Nile to the construction sites.

There's a lot of information on this kind of stuff on the web, which a brief google search should uncover.

Intuitive

The easiest technique would be to build the Pyramid in steps, just like the first Pyramids were built, (Stepped Pyramid), Then building small acute
sand stone Ramps between each step so the design looks like a square spiral ramp case, the smaller ramps were covered up as the finishing touches of limestone cement filled the steps into a smooth surface feature, The Ramps would of been masoned into place as limestone cement Ramps, Same material used to make the smooth surface of the pyramid, as the smooth face was added the ramps became apart of the face material and not detectable because the ramp material blended into the cement.
Simple Masonry.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...lr%3D%26sa%3DG
The Pyramids were built one foundation layer at a time from the ground up.

matthyaouw

I thought it was fairly well established that the giza pyramids were made of nummulitic limestone of eocene age, The presence of large fossils of now extinct foraminifera more or less rules out casting of the blocks by man. I don't know if every block of every pyramid has been checked, so I suppose its possible that some cast blocks could have gone unnoticed. Do you know what pyramid this block belonged to?

zoobyshoe

No, but what Intuitive said about everything being faced with limestone cement makes me think they might have been dealing with two blocks still cemented together. The hair would only have been in the cement bond layer. If the story's even true. They simply interviewed the guy who told the story: no shots or evidence of this hair in the rock was presented.

Evo

Actually, the outer limestone casing was blocks of limestone that were polished, it wasn't a layer of a cement like substance.

The earlier 5th dynasty pyramids were made with brick, perhaps the show you watched was about one of these pyramids?

zoobyshoe

I don't think so. This particular guy was maintaining that the Egyptians had cast all the blocks in place with a special formula. This split block incident was the main reason he seemed to think this.

jimmie

There have been many theories about the "capstone" of the Great Pyramid.

Has it ever been proven that the Great Pyramid, in fact, did have a physical capstone at any point?

guido

as far back as 60,000 BC, bitumen (oil) had already become a useful substance for early man.It was used to seal dwellings, and it uses were mentioned in the bible as a sealant used to construct the raft moses was found on "cradles sealed with bitumen." around 3500 BC the first genuine city was founded on the bank of the euphrates in iraq, this city, "Ur" or "Urkuk" is where cuneiform developed and some of the earliest translations show the production (simply gathering it up in clay pots) and export of petroleum was very common. perhaps they used oil to lubricate the logs and surfaces.

zoobyshoe

I'd believe 6000 BC, but not 60,000.

guido

thanks for the correction

ray b

"(which was 4000 ft high)." ? ?
under 400 feet high

it did not take 4000 years eathor more like less then 20 years each for the big ones

they are just a big pile of rocks no need for UFO BS

quaries have been found
http://www.harvard-magazine.com/on-line/070391.html

DaveC426913

You will want to be checking your facts, and checking the sources of those facts, before you go too far down this road.

There is a lot of misinformation of this type out there - people are not above forcing the numbers to fit their wild ideas and then spreading those deceptions far and wide. von Daniken made a living off doing this.