Cryptography question-how to solve a Ceaser Cipher

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The discussion revolves around solving a Caesar Cipher, specifically how to decipher a given encrypted message without resorting to trial and error. Participants explore various methods for determining the deciphering key and decoding the message.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how to solve the Caesar Cipher without trial and error, indicating a lack of instruction on the topic.
  • Another participant suggests using letter frequency analysis, noting that the most common letter in English is 'e' and proposing to match it with the most frequently occurring letter in the ciphertext.
  • A different participant claims to have decoded the message, stating that the shift was by 5 characters and providing the decoded message as "ourbrainisawonderfulmachine".
  • Another response reiterates the initial question and recommends conducting English frequency counts available online to assist in the translation process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple approaches to solving the Caesar Cipher, with no consensus on a single method. Some methods are proposed while others are challenged or refined, leaving the discussion open-ended.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not agree on a definitive method for solving the cipher, and there is uncertainty regarding the effectiveness of the proposed strategies. The accuracy of the claimed decoded message is not verified by others.

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cryptography question--how to solve a Ceaser Cipher

yeah, probably a very simple question i know, but we are at a loss of what to do. We haven't been given any instruction on how to solve one, but the quest we were given is


The following message is a Caesar Cipher, a message encrypted by shifting each plaintext letter by a fixed amount:
TZWGWFNSNXFBTSIJWKZQRFHMNSJ
Find the deciphering key for this message and decipher the message.


question is how is this done without methodically, trial and error, going through the alphabet and subsituting letters over and over again?
 
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One way is to look at letter frequencies. For example, the most common letter in English is 'e', so if you take a long enough ciphertext encoded with the Caesar cipher, the most commonly repeated letter ought to correspond to "e".

If 'e' doesn't work, try other letters to replace the most common letter, in this order:

ETAOINSHRDLU
 


Hi there. wow old topic indeed.

here is the decoded ceaser shift

ourbrainisawonderfulmachine

The shift was by 5 characters.

Ciphertext alphabet : FGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDE

was bored...
 
jaggtagg7 said:
yeah, probably a very simple question i know, but we are at a loss of what to do. We haven't been given any instruction on how to solve one, but the quest we were given is


The following message is a Caesar Cipher, a message encrypted by shifting each plaintext letter by a fixed amount:
TZWGWFNSNXFBTSIJWKZQRFHMNSJ
Find the deciphering key for this message and decipher the message.


question is how is this done without methodically, trial and error, going through the alphabet and subsituting letters over and over again?

Sure! Do a english frequency counts on the Internet with your letters, get the results, then translate! Good Luck! BlackChamber
 

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