Leidenfrost Effect Physics Project Ideas & Rotating Motion Explanation

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The discussion revolves around the Leidenfrost effect, specifically examining the relationship between the temperature of a hot plate and the lifetime of a water droplet. Participants are exploring additional variables that could be investigated in relation to this phenomenon, as well as the observed rotating motion of the liquid droplet, which exhibits a "star characteristic."

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  • The original poster seeks ideas for other variables to change in their experiment on the Leidenfrost effect. They also inquire about the nature of the "star characteristic" observed in the rotating liquid. Some participants suggest that this characteristic may relate to surface tension or liquid cohesiveness.

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Participants are actively discussing the observed phenomena and sharing references to existing literature. There is an exchange of ideas regarding the implications of the Leidenfrost effect and its relevance to heat transfer in various systems. No explicit consensus has been reached, but there is a productive exploration of the topic.

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Some participants reference external sources for further reading, indicating a collaborative effort to deepen understanding of the Leidenfrost effect and related phenomena. The original poster has expressed a need for additional ideas, suggesting that their project may have constraints or specific requirements.

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Can someone give me some ideas on my current physics Project:cry:
I am currently measureing the effect of temperature of a hot plate on the life time of a water droplet!
But I am looking of some realistic ideas on other variables that i can change on top of the leidenfrost effect.
Also I am abserving this rotating motion of the suspending liquid, where it spins with a star characteristic. Does anyone know why this happen?
Thank you,:smile:
You can write to me vis email : dragoon.li@gmail.com
 
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coolie said:
Also I am abserving this rotating motion of the suspending liquid, where it spins with a star characteristic.
What does "star characteristic" mean?

It could simply mean that surface tension or liquid cohesiveness in the drop is not azimuthally uniform, which is quite natural and expected.
 
Usefuel reference - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leidenfrost_Effect

and

http://www.wiley.com/college/phy/halliday320005/pdf/leidenfrost_essay.pdf

The Leidenfrost point (LFP) is the minimum surface temperature required to support film boiling, and film boiling is undesirable in a heat exchanger because the vapor phase has a significantly lower heat transfer coefficient (lower thermal conductivity), which will result in higher temperatures on the heated surface which is being cooled by boiling liquid. Higher temperatures can lead to premature or catastropic structural failure, and in aqueous systems, lead to corrosion which degrades heat transfer properties, and can degrade structural integrity.
 
this phenomenon that you've observed has been observed and studied by others -- the star pattern is called a "leidenfrost star"... which was "discovered" in the 50s by holter and glasscock.

here's the reference:

N. Holter and W. Glasscock, “Vibrations of evaporating liquid drops,”
J. Ac. Soc.
Am., vol. 24, no. 6, pp. 682–686, 1952.

hope this helps.
 

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