How High Will the Block Rise After a Gunshot?

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The problem involves a gunshot that impacts a block of wood, raising questions about the height the block will rise after the bullet embeds itself in it. The scenario includes a mass of the bullet and block, their initial velocities, and the effects of gravity on the motion.

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  • Participants discuss momentum conservation and kinematic equations to determine the height the block will rise. Some suggest using energy conservation principles, while others question the validity of energy conservation in this inelastic collision context.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some have provided calculations and results, while others are questioning the assumptions made regarding energy conservation during the collision.

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There is a mention of neglecting air resistance and the nature of the collision being inelastic, which affects energy conservation considerations. Participants are also grappling with the setup of their equations and the implications of their calculations.

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A gun is fired vertically into a 1.4 kg block of wood at rest directly above it. If the bullet has a mass of 21g and speed of 210 m/s how high will the block rise into the air after the bullet becomes embedded in it?

the total momentum in the system is 210 x .021 = 4.41,
after the collision, the 1.421 mass is traveling upward at 3.0964 m/s... how would i find how high the mass rises into the air?
 
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y = y0 + v0t + ½at2
v = v0 + at
or energy conservation (it's conserved after the impact).
 
If one has a mass M, and it has an intial velocity V, it is a simple kinematics problem. For starters neglect air resistance.

If something is traveling vertical, it will be decelerating due to gravity.

Determine the equation that describes vertical motion in a gravity field.

Alternatively, use conservation of energy. The initial energy is kinetic. The mass travels vertically until it stops (vertical speed = 0). Equate initial kinetic energy with the change in gravitational potential energy.
 
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If one has a mass M, and it has an intial velocity V, it is a simple kinematics problem. For starters neglect air resistance.
If something is traveling vertical, it will be decelerating due to gravity.
Determine the equation that describes vertical motion in a gravity field.
Alternatively, use conservation of energy. The initial energy is kinetic. The mass travels vertically until it stops (vertical speed = 0). Equate initial kinetic energy with the change in gravitational potential energy.

I got the right answer using kinematic equations (.491m) but i tried using conservation of energy and got a totally different answer:

KE initial = delta PE
1/2(0.021)(210)^2 = 1.421 (9.8) h
33.25 m = h
how am i setting up the equation wrong?
 
Energy is not conserved during the collision (unless the collision is elastic, which it isn't in this problem), see my first reply.
 

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