What Happens to a Magnetic Sphere in an Electrolyte with Current?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a metal sphere in an electrolyte solution when an electric current is applied. Participants explore the effects of electric fields, charge distribution, and the motion of the sphere in response to these conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions what happens to the sphere when a current is passed through the electrolyte, specifically regarding the charges on its surface.
  • Another participant suggests that the sphere would become electrically charged as a result of the current.
  • It is proposed that while the sphere may become charged, the charges would dissipate once the current stops flowing.
  • A participant explains that the applied voltage creates an electric field across the microsphere, leading to a rearrangement of charges within the metal to counteract the electric field, while ions in the solution would be attracted to these charges, providing a shielding effect.
  • One participant introduces the idea of the sphere's motion, questioning how it would behave if set in motion and whether the electric charge would influence its trajectory.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the persistence of charge on the sphere after the current ceases, and there is uncertainty regarding the effects of motion on the charged sphere. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the relatively small effects of the electric field due to the low voltage across the electrolyte and suggest that the problem can be approached using electrostatics principles, though specific mathematical steps are not fully resolved.

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If you have a metal sphere of the order of a say, few micrometers in diameter, and you put it in an electrolyte solution - what would you expect to happen when a current is passed through that solution? I am referring here to charges on the surface of the sphere.
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Well the sphere would get electrically charged?
 
The sphere will be possibly in the circuit but charges will go once the current will stop.
 
You want this sphere to continue being charged once the current has stopped flowing?
 
The applied voltage would create an electric field across the microsphere. Since it's a good conductor, electrons/holes in the metal would re-arrange to try to cancel the electric field. Ions in solution would be attracted to these charges, sheilding their effect.
Code:
electrode                                                      electrode
+    ------> current, +ion motion                              -
+   <------  -ion motion                                      -
+                                                             -
+              +             -                                 -
+            +     -     +                                   -
+                -   ball  +     - free ions               -
+          +     -         +                                 -
+                  -      +       -                         -
+            +                 -                              -
(note the distinction between the current ions, and the "stationary" ions shielding the sphere)
These are relatively small effects; consider that you have only 2-3V across several cm of electrolyte (small electric field). Ignoring the ion current (which has no not charge), this can be treated as a simple problem of electrostatics: a metal sphere surrounded by a dielectric, in an applied E field - you can solve this with an expansion in spherical harmonics.
 
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And if you set that ball in motion in a strait line, which way would it bend? Or would the elctric charge not affect it?
 

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