Comparing Compton Effect: 10pm vs 20pm Wavelengths for Electromagnetic Waves

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The discussion revolves around the Compton effect as it relates to electromagnetic waves of different wavelengths, specifically comparing 10 pm and 20 pm wavelengths. The original poster expresses concern about the ambiguity of the question due to missing information such as the scattering angle and final wavelength.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between wavelength and the Compton effect, questioning how the scattering angle influences the final wavelength. There are discussions about the implications of photon energy and momentum in relation to the effect.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the variables involved and discussing the implications of different wavelengths on the Compton effect. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between photon energy and scattering, but no consensus has been reached on the final interpretation of the question.

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There is a noted lack of specific information regarding the scattering angle and material properties, which participants recognize as important factors in determining the outcome of the Compton effect.

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for the following question:
for electromagnetic waves A of wavelength 10pm and electromagnetic waves B o f wavelengthh 20 pm, which produces more pronounced Compton effect?

my problem:
the question doesn't give the scattering angle or final wavelength, so isn't this question too ambiguous?
 
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The final wavelength depends on the scattering angle so why not compare how they each scatter from a given particle starting at rest?
 
can you explain what do you mean by that?
 
The change in wavelength in Compton scattering is:

[tex]\Delta \lambda = \frac {h}{m_e c} \left( 1 - \cos \theta \right)[/tex]

where [itex]\theta[/itex] is the scattering angle. You can use that to compare the change in energy of the photons to determine which produces a "more pronounced Compton effect."
 
but delta lamda and cos(cita) are both variables!
 
Indeed they are! So, follow my suggestion to get your answer.
 
maybe my english isn't too good~
i still don't understand what you mean...
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How about - the greater the photon energy, i.e. shorter the wavelength, the more momentum the photon has - p = E/c.

Think of conservation of momenutm and energy.
 
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i thought you also had to consider what type of material it hits, because doesn't compton effect has a range?
 
  • #10
Your original question was which photon produces a more pronounced Compton effect? Logically, you will keep all other variables the same and only consider what effect the wavelength has on the scattering.
 
  • #11
i see... so that would be B wavelength produces the more pronouced Compton effect right?
 
  • #12
No. The shorter wavelength will produce a more pronounced effect -- BUT -- you have to SHOW it! E.g. calculate how much energy is transferred to the charged particle. You have the basic relations here so you should be able to do that.
 
  • #13
ok, i get it! thanks! :)
 

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