Finding the Derivative of f at (1,2) in a Different Direction

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of a function f at the point (1,2) in various directions, specifically focusing on directional derivatives and their relationships. The subject area includes calculus and vector analysis.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between directional derivatives in different directions and consider how to express one direction as a linear combination of others. There is discussion about the necessity of the gradient and how to derive it from known directional derivatives.

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The conversation is active, with participants offering insights on how to relate known directional derivatives to find the unknown derivative. There is no explicit consensus, but several productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants note the lack of information about the function f, which complicates the direct calculation of the gradient. The discussion also highlights the importance of the given directional derivatives in guiding the exploration of the problem.

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Greetings, I got a Q on directional derivatives.
The derivative of f(x,y) at (1,2) in the direction of [1,1] is 2(2)^.5 and in the direction of [0, -2] is -3. What is the derivative of f in the direction of [-1, -2]??

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Calculate the vectors which give the direction from your point (1,2) to the three given points. Can you then find a relation between the first two and the last directional vectors and use that result?
 
So I guess the key is to find the gradient of f at the point?
 
Yes, but you don't have any information about the function so explicitly finding the gradient won't be easy. You know the answers in two directions though, can't you form your third direction as a lineair combination of the first two and then use that relation on the results?
 
You are given the derivative in the direction of (0, -3) so you can immediately get the partial derivative with respect to y (that is the derivative in the direction of (0, 1). It will take a bit of thought to use the derivative in the direction (1, 1) along with that to get the partial derivative with respect to x but it can be done (remember how a directional derivative relates to the gradient). After you get that, you can find the gradient and then get the derivative in any direction.
 

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