Havin' problem in vector direction

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the new direction of velocity for object A in relation to object B, given their initial positions and velocities. Participants explore the problem from a mathematical and conceptual perspective, focusing on vector directions and relative motion.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states the initial relative position of A from B is 5j, with A's initial velocity as 40i + 30j and B's velocity as 12i + 16j.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on what the original poster is trying to find.
  • The original poster clarifies they are trying to find the new direction of velocity for A.
  • A suggestion is made to consider the position of B after one unit of time, leading to coordinates (12, 16).
  • There is confusion about how to determine the vector that would allow A to reach B's new position.
  • One participant proposes that the vector to get A to B's new position is 12i + 16j.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the implications of the vector 12i + 11j and requests further explanation.
  • A participant questions the notion of "overtaking B," suggesting it may refer to calculating an angle to hit a moving target.
  • Another participant describes using the cosine rule to solve for angles in a triangle formed by the positions of A and B.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple competing views and remains unresolved regarding the best approach to determine the new direction of A's velocity. Participants express varying levels of understanding and clarity on the problem.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the clarity of the problem statement, particularly regarding the definition of "overtaking" and the assumptions about the motion of A and B. Some mathematical steps and reasoning are not fully articulated, leading to confusion among participants.

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What i have now is the initial relative position of A from B, which is 5j
initial velocity of A is 40i + 30j, the direction is changed so that it can overtake B.
Velocity of B is 12i + 16j.
I can find the speed of A, which is 50.
I tried to let the new velocity of A be 50(ai + bj), then here's the problem:
I tried to use
[tex]\\vec{r}_A = \\vec{r}_B[/tex]
r_A=r_B for which r represents the displacement.
but there are 3 unknowns and I'm stuck there...
*I'm having problem with the latex code... hope u can understand
 
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so what are you trying tofind
 
I'm trying to find the new direction of velocity of A
 
so do this

a is at the orgin

then b is at 0,5

if the vel of b is 12i + 16j

where would that put it in the next unit of time
 
I'm sorry, the s should be located north of b,
so b is the origin, and a at (0,5).
If vel of b is 12i + 16j, then in next unit of time,
it'll reach the point (12,16).
What can it help me?
I still dun understand.
 
ok now what would be the vector be to get a to that point?
 
12i + 11j?
u mean for A?
still dun understand.
 
if you are going from 5j to 12i + 16j then the vector be 12i + 16j
 
What can i get from vector 12i + 11j, what to do next?
Sorry I'm too dumb... i need more explanation if possible...
 
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helo?
no one can help me?
 
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What do you want to know? I don't understand this notion of 'to overtake B'. Do they mean to meet B (as in, calculating the angle to fire a bullet to hit a moving target)?
 
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Well I'm guessing you want to know the new direction of A, such that A will meet B, like a bullet hitting a moving target.

I drew an obtuse triangle with sides {5,2x,5x}, then used the cos-rule (one angle is known) to get an equation in x, which I solved. Knowing x, one knows the lengths and finding the angle is just a small step away.
 
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